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    Default re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    Quote Originally Posted by MEH View Post
    Why can't our PA Democrats be like him?
    Physical deficiencies. Ours don't have a spine or balls.
    "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
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    Talking re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    Quote Originally Posted by Pector55 View Post
    Physical deficiencies. Ours don't have a spine or balls.
    Now that there's funny! ROFLMAO







    (and yet somehow it isn't)

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    Default re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    A corp/LLC provides little protection to individuals intentionally breaking the law. Assuming, of course, that ATF and the feds will consider the activity illegal.

    Back to the main topic, I think this is fantastic! A state actually passing a law such as this is phenomenal!

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    Default re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    I know us guys are supposed supposed to be macho, tuff and all that but this brings a tear (of joy) to my eyes.
    -Remember the Constitution-

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    Default re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    Good for them. This is some great news someone is stepping up on the offensive for gun rights.

    Montana is a good state, i have relatives there.
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    Default re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law !

    Quote Originally Posted by markheck1 View Post
    What is this meaningless document you speak of?

    Just what I was thinkin'
    Go sell crazy some where else, we're all stocked up here.


    Political power grows from the muzzle of a gun.

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    Default Re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law

    The people saying they wouldn't want to be the test guy, are maybe missing the plan. They want him to inform the BATF that he intends to do this and get them to tell him it's illegal. That would be the basis for the lawsuit, not him actually making anything and getting arrested. At least that's how I read it....

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    Default Re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law

    Would be nice to see BATF put in there place.

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    Default Re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Pector55 View Post
    Physical deficiencies. Ours don't have a spine or balls.
    stop making fun of retarded people.

    my bad.. handicapped people.
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you... but believe me, it's on the damned list.

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    Default Re: Montana sends a HUGE message to the ATF /FEDS !!! Gov Signs made in Mont. Gun Law

    My thoughts :

    1. Federal law, precedent, etc, etc, is all stacked against this. From my understanding Wickard (1941?) said that basically you could be building something in your basement no one else ever sees let alone buys or uses and it's still interstate commerce.

    2. As Andrew Jackson said “John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.” As others have alluded to, whether it is Philly ignoring state gun laws to enforce it's own, cities and states ignoring federal immigration laws to do their own pro-illegal thing, medical marijuana etc, this is a similar type of situation. The law is only what is enforced and what people view as actually be in effect or valid. If states actually stand up to the Feds, on guns or other issues, it will come down to who has bigger fuzzy dice. Regardless of the legal technicalities this is going to be decided by politics.


    3. If this became a trend and was pushed the way CC has been, it could pave the way toward getting rid of some of NFA and starting a roll back. At the very least taking positions that aim to roll back gun laws instead of just trying to prevent new ones, changes where the "middle" is when politicians make "compromises".

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