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    Default Moving from Michigan to Philadelphia...

    I've been dreading having to ask this question because I'm fearing the worst.

    A "friend' is moving from Michigan to Philadelphia in June. Just read up on some of the legislation that passed in Philly last year...

    What are the legalities of bringing his guns with him, and does reciprocity for CPL carry over in Philly? What are his options?

    Firearms in question:
    AR-15 with goodies
    Bolt action .223
    10/22 (no ports, suppressor)
    20g pump
    1911 .45ACP
    9mm HK

    Hoping to hear some good news...

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    Default Re: Moving from Michigan to Philadelphia...

    No worries, mate. the local ordinances (such as the mag capacity) that Phila passed are in violation of 18Pa.C.S.6120 and therefor unenforceable.

    Other than that...

    Pa. honors MI license. That includes Phila. However, obviously you will want to apply for a Pa. LTCF when you establish permanent residency.

    The following thread would be useful for the new Pa. resident as well, one can print out a handy primer on Pa. gun laws:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...carry-you.html
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    Default Re: Moving from Michigan to Philadelphia...

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtorlam View Post
    I've been dreading having to ask this question because I'm fearing the worst.

    A "friend' is moving from Michigan to Philadelphia in June. Just read up on some of the legislation that passed in Philly last year...

    What are the legalities of bringing his guns with him, and does reciprocity for CPL carry over in Philly? What are his options?

    Firearms in question:
    AR-15 with goodies
    Bolt action .223
    10/22 (no ports, suppressor)
    20g pump
    1911 .45ACP
    9mm HK

    Hoping to hear some good news...
    We have reciprocity with Michigan. We have no firearm registration. I don't know what the deal is as far as NFA items goes(whether you have to change your address or fill out new paperwork, ask in the NFA section), but as long as you transport them properly, I don't believe there is any problem at all.


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    Default Re: Moving from Michigan to Philadelphia...

    On the NFA 10/22:

    How to move or travel with an NFA Firearm Interstate
    August 29, 2008

    Posted In: FAQ's
    By David M. Goldman on August 29, 2008 10:30 AM | Permalink
    Individuals, business entities, or trusts other than class 3 dealers or licensees must obtain permission from ATF prior to temporarily or permanently moving a machine-gun, short-barreled shotgun, short-barreled rifle, or destructive device interstate.

    To obtain permission to move these firearms, you must submit either a letter requesting permission to move the item(s) or a Form 5320.20 to the ATF

    If you are submitting the request by letter, please include the:

    • Name of registrant;
    • The firearm(s);
    • The current location of the firearm(s);
    • The location to which the firearm(s) will be transported;
    • The date(s) and means of transportation (car, plane, boat, etc.); and
    • The reason the firearm is being moved.

    You must also indicate whether:

    (1) the move is temporary or permanent;
    (2) the move will involve a transfer of the title; and
    (3) whether the possession of the firearm will violate local or State law at the destination.

    The ATF Form 5320.20 includes these requirements.

    Requests for interstate transportation will be denied by ATF if possession of the firearm at the destination will violate State or local law.

    Registrants do not have to obtain permission from ATF to move a silencer or "any other weapon" interstate. However, if a registrant's address for these types of firearms changes after registration with ATF, please notify the NFA Branch in writing of the new address, so the NFRTR can reflect the registrant's correct address.
    ref: http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2008/0...l-with-an.html
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    danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
    Remember Meleanie

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    Default Re: Moving from Michigan to Philadelphia...

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtorlam View Post
    A "friend' is moving from Michigan to Philadelphia in June. Just read up on some of the legislation that passed in Philly last year....
    I recommend a gunsafe, in case he doesn't have one yet, since burglary might be a problem (depends on neighborhood and layout of apartment).

    Have your friend contact me when he's in town. I can set him up with a range, etc.

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