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    Default All things AR-15 and variants from newbie to advanced. Find answers here.

    This is the place to learn AR basics, to build an AR, keep it running and get the most out of it. Check the links below to see if your question has been asked and answered. You may also post a question that you can't find an answer for.

    To get things started, here are a couple of videos from Midway on building an AR.




    Below are links to threads discussing ARs. Some are more valuable than others.

    AR PORN!
    http://forum.pafoa.org/gun-pictures-...ures-here.html

    Offsite basics for the newbie.
    http://forums.officer.com/t81462/

    Newbie advise thread.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/274...ds-advice.html

    Discussion about poor AR quality.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/270...ally-suck.html

    Torture testing at a rental range. Long read but some great info.
    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/160...ervations.html

    Feed ramp mismatch due to different manufacturers.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/270...ramps-fml.html

    Some parts resources for a specific build.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/271...-a2-clone.html

    First AR.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/270...buying-ar.html

    Muzzle devices.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/271...le-device.html

    Muzzle device removal.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/269...e-removal.html

    Bolt hold open.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/268...round-why.html

    Stripped lower discussion.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/269...r-project.html

    .22 LR ARs.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/269304-ar-22-a.html

    AR barrel discussion.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/268...rrel-help.html

    AR pistol problem.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/268...here-help.html

    AR mags.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/266968-ar-mags.html

    Buffer weights.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.ph...=buffer+weight

    Cleaning your AR.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/173...e-ar-15-a.html

    Barrel material and treatments.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=323027
    Last edited by unclejumbo; July 6th, 2017 at 09:53 AM.
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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Great, we can turn this into a min-arfcom.

    Get a Windham rifle

    /thread

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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Finally...me putting words into your mouth worked!

    I have some things I'll add later today.
    Quote Originally Posted by dkf View Post
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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    There are a few things that you can do to increase accuracy out of your gun (removing the shooter as a variability).

    1. Quality barrel
    2. Upper receiver that has a tight fit to the barrel extension. The barrel extension should not easily slip in and out of the receiver.
    3. Bolt
    4. Free float rail

    To get precision out of the gun, the shooter has to become consistent and a good trigger will help you do that.

    Good tip if you want to check your rifle's accuracy. If you're doing a 5-round group (as you should be doing), put a cheap 6th round in there and pop it off into the berm before you do your grouping. Part of precision is consistency and this allows the BCG to cycle the same from 1st to 5th round. This was taught to me by a guy that knows a thing or two about murdering things from far away.
    Last edited by RXM; December 2nd, 2014 at 01:18 PM.

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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Quote Originally Posted by RXM View Post
    There are a few things that you can do to increase accuracy out of your gun (removing the shooter as a variability).

    1. Quality barrel
    2. Upper receiver that has a tight fit to the barrel extension. The barrel extension should not easily slip in and out of the receiver.
    3. Bolt
    4. Free float rail

    To get precision out of the gun, the shooter has to become consistent and a good trigger will help you do that.

    Good tip if you want to check your rifle's accuracy. If you're doing a 5-round group (as you should be doing), put a cheap 6th round in there and pop it off into the berm before you do your grouping. Part of precision is consistency and this allows the BCG to cycle the same from 1st to 5th round. This was taught to me by a guy that knows a thing or two about murdering things from far away.
    One piece I've wondered about since I got the AR bug is the bolt. I ask this out of genuine curiosity & not to start an argument.

    I understand how you can increase the precision of your rifle by using a better barrel, free float tubes & better trigger etc. I know a better fit & options on the upper / lower / stock can make life easier through better controls (or by just making it prettier). But I do wonder, how does a more expensive bolt actually affect the chambered round to increase accuracy? I get that it should be machined well & close tightly. Does a more expensive bolt close tighter or more straight somehow? I thought some of the coatings were essentially to make them easier to clean & need less lubrication.

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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Quote Originally Posted by theunrulychef View Post
    One piece I've wondered about since I got the AR bug is the bolt. I ask this out of genuine curiosity & not to start an argument.

    I understand how you can increase the precision of your rifle by using a better barrel, free float tubes & better trigger etc. I know a better fit & options on the upper / lower / stock can make life easier through better controls (or by just making it prettier). But I do wonder, how does a more expensive bolt actually affect the chambered round to increase accuracy? I get that it should be machined well & close tightly. Does a more expensive bolt close tighter or more straight somehow? I thought some of the coatings were essentially to make them easier to clean & need less lubrication.
    I have a nib coated bolt that I run wet and lubricate prior to each range session. After only about 150 rounds the coating has already started to wear where it contacts the upper receiver. I will post pics later of it, but a good quality phosphate MPI bolt is better than most new age treatments.

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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Quote Originally Posted by RXM View Post
    There are a few things that you can do to increase accuracy out of your gun (removing the shooter as a variability).

    1. Quality barrel
    2. Upper receiver that has a tight fit to the barrel extension. The barrel extension should not easily slip in and out of the receiver.
    3. Bolt
    4. Free float rail

    To get precision out of the gun, the shooter has to become consistent and a good trigger will help you do that.

    Good tip if you want to check your rifle's accuracy. If you're doing a 5-round group (as you should be doing), put a cheap 6th round in there and pop it off into the berm before you do your grouping. Part of precision is consistency and this allows the BCG to cycle the same from 1st to 5th round. This was taught to me by a guy that knows a thing or two about murdering things from far away.
    Check out a guy named Joe Carlos he has some excellent build tips and covers the reason that the upper and barrel extension can have an effect on accuracy.

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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    If you use set screws you can acquire Rocksett from silencer shop in single dose packets for just a few bucks and free shipping.


    http://www.silencershop.com/shop/rocksett/



    Mcmaster Carr pt. 90289A337, I've seen these screws recommended several times in my research on the subject....looks like it would do the job well?

    Last edited by Splittiebus66; December 3rd, 2014 at 12:13 AM.
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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Quote Originally Posted by RXM View Post
    Great, we can turn this into a min-arfcom.

    Get a Windham rifle

    /thread
    NEVER, I will delete all sniping at one another or snipe to delete those that can't behave.

    Anyway, lets try to keep it on track. If we have a bitch about a manufacturer, be specific and include pics. Don't use, "they're junk" and think that's a positive contribution to the thread. None of us want to buy something and learn we screwed the pooch so legitimate warnings about quality are appreciated.

    The other thing I will do on occasion is go through and delete chatter. No reflection on anyone but I'm sure someone looking for information isn't going to want to read pages of purple nurples and wet willies.
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    Default Re: AR Building, Accurizing, Tips & Tricks

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    NEVER, I will delete all sniping at one another or snipe to delete those that can't behave.

    Anyway, lets try to keep it on track. If we have a bitch about a manufacturer, be specific and include pics. Don't use, "they're junk" and think that's a positive contribution to the thread. None of us want to buy something and learn we screwed the pooch so legitimate warnings about quality are appreciated.
    You're starting to set ground rules. First rule of arfcom-mini is that there are no ground rules!

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