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May 22nd, 2008, 09:26 AM #1Grand Member
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Bullet Serialization
http://www.kirotv.com/news/16345114/detail.html
Inventors Create Coding System To Register Bullets
SEATTLE -- A Seattle man and two business partners have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and nearly five years developing a patented technology that would place a code on every bullet purchased, reported KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.
A unique alpha-numeric code would be stamped on each bullet, either on the projectile or on the inside of the cartridge casing, and the ammunition purchase would be registered he same way a gun purchase is.
The inventors said that with the code, police would be able to quickly track who bought the bullet by checking a database and thus, getting a jump on the investigation.
Inventor Russ Ford said the technology would help solve crimes. Once police have a bullet used in a crime, investigators would need only a flashlight and a magnifying glass to see the code. Alan Gottlieb with the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said registering ammunition is nothing more than a "backdoor firearms registration" scheme.
Gottlieb said he also takes exception to the men trying to legislate their technology into law.
Ammunition Coding Legislation has been introduced in 18 states, including Washington, three months ago.
The bill never got a hearing before the Judiciary Committee.
Owner of Wade's Eastside Guns and Indoor Range, Wade Gaughran, said the paperwork needed to track ammunition sales would "be a nightmare."
"It would take literally a century to get to where a significant amount of ammunition out on the market was bar coded," said Gaughran. The inventors said the cost would come down to "just pennies a bullet," but Gaughra said for him, it would mean hiring more employees to track those sales.
The inventors have hired lobbyists in Washington and California to get their technology passed into law.
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May 22nd, 2008, 10:56 AM #2
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If this were to ever take place, and criminals heard of this, it seems obvious to me that they would find/steal bullets from other people or find an alternate source to obtain them. Therefore shooting bullets "registered" to other people and possibly causing incrimination of the wrong people. Bad idea in my opinion
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May 22nd, 2008, 11:02 AM #3Banned
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I'm sure this will get passed, those guys will get rich and so will the congressmen they bribe...
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May 22nd, 2008, 11:12 AM #4
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If criminals don't acquire guns legally, what makes these idiots think that criminals will legally acquire their coded ammo?
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May 22nd, 2008, 11:25 AM #5
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Criminals will find someone to make the bullet for them. Don't these people realize that reloaded ammo does not have a number? Criminals are smart enough to not use ammo that could get them busted. Not to mention all they have to do is steal it and frame someone else. The idea probably will pass but will ultimately fail, millions of tax dollars later.
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May 22nd, 2008, 11:50 AM #6
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The cost is ridiculous, and this has been going around for months now. Don't know why it surfaced again....
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May 22nd, 2008, 12:06 PM #7Senior Member
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Re: Bullet Serialization
NRA Mag 1ST Freedom has an article on this. I think it would be really hard for them to pass such ridiculous legislation. This guy Ford is trying to get the Gov to sell his product.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=2228&pn=3188
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May 22nd, 2008, 12:15 PM #8
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Could one custom order peoples names in the code?
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May 22nd, 2008, 12:29 PM #9Active Member
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Re: Bullet Serialization
Exactly what is this going to accomplish?
If gun registration cant be proven to prevent crime, or even reliably help catch criminals, what good could possibly come from registering the bullets?
Any fool with a few extra $$ laying around can reload, and even forge their own projectiles.
Feel-good legislation that makes a few people rich, and annoys the rest of the world, I guess.
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May 22nd, 2008, 12:41 PM #10Banned
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My bullets are already serialized...
that is, they enter the chamber from the mag in the exactly opposite order that they entered (the mag). I can rely on that EVERY TIME!
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