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    Cool Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Going to start my journal of OC'ing for 2008 here....

    As a warm up to attending The Great Eastern OPEN CARRY Luncheon MEET & GREET in Palmyra PA today I had an interesting adventure while carrying my 1911 in an OWB holster.

    Thanks to Useless Air (USAirways) who canceled my flight from Canton OH (Again) I had to drive home in a rental car yesterday - so I needed to take it back...

    AVIS car rental at Phila. Airport - no one noticed
    Terminal B/C baggage claim at Phila. Airport - no one noticed
    Standing waiting for the train at the airport platform - no one noticed
    On train to Suburban Station in downtown Phila. - conductor noticed and kept an eye on me - but nothing said
    Walking around Suburban Station and waiting on the platform for the train - no one noticed
    On train to Wayne - conductor noticed and kept an eye on me - but nothing said
    Walking home from train station through downtown Wayne - no one noticed

    Now for the fun part - Wawa in Wayne - I've OC'd there hundreds of times with no issues - I'm getting a cuppa and having a conversation with a neighbor about our daughters when this starts...disapproving mother ('DM') with 2 boys about 5 and 7 years old - conversation is the best of my recollection...

    DM: in a loud voice so everyone in the store can hear...Isn't there some law that says that you can't have a gun out in the open like that
    Me: Nope - this is perfectly legal
    DM: That's Disgusting
    Me: That's why America is great - you can have your opinion and I can keep on doing what I'm doing
    DM: So you feel that you need a weapon to protect yourself (Condescending tone)
    Me: I'm the only one responsible for my safety
    DM: Well what if one of these kids grabs that away from you and hurts someone
    Me: Not going to happen
    DM: Why Not
    Me: I'm very aware of who is around me and I will definitely notice if someone attempts to touch my firearm -
    DM: Well as you're flirting with that woman you don't seem to be paying attention
    Me: So I can't have a conversation with one of my neighbors...Do you notice that my elbow is resting on top of the firearm - kind of hard to move the firearm with out me noticing
    DM: Guns are evil - most people are killed with guns
    Me: No guns are just inanimate machines - just like cars - and last time I checked - there were far more people killed by cars than firearms. Firearms aren't evil - but people can be evil
    DM: Well it just isn't right
    Me: Well then vote for Obama as he doesn't think I should have the right to do this either
    DM: mumbling - I'm not sure who I'm voting for
    Me: I do want to compliment you for noticing that I have a firearm - most people don't notice
    DM: I didn't notice my boys did
    Me: Good job boys - you noticed something unusual and then told your mother - Good job
    DM: Well can't WaWa say that you can't come in here
    Me: They could
    DM: I'm calling Wawa
    Me: Go ahead - call the police if you want to - what I'm doing is perfectly legal
    DM: I'm going to write the President of WaWa and tell him to keep the guns out of these stores.
    Me: Go ahead - I vote with my dollars - If Wawa bans firearms, they lose my business - I only spend my money where I'm welcomed with my firearm and I know lots of other people that feel the same way
    DM: Harrumphs out of the store.
    Clerk: Grinning broadly - Nice job defending your position
    DM: (outside store) - .....boys - remember that guns are evil
    Me: (not resisting the chance for the last word) - No People can be evil - Guns are just machines like cars.


    Camiel rest stop on turnpike - no one noticed
    Great Eastern Carry Meet and Greet - about 40 people OC'ing - most I've ever seen at one time other than competitions.... lots of positive notice and excellent conversations with a fine group of folks. Learned new things and met people I'd be proud to call friends.

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Quote Originally Posted by lprgcFrank View Post
    DM: Guns are evil - most people are killed with guns

    Shoulda said:
    Would it make you feel better if they were pushed out a window?

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    I really got some respect for you OC'ing in one of the most anti-gun cities on the east coast (especially at the AIRPORT). With all these young kids beating up and killing people on the SEPTA railways as of late it was probably one of the best moves you could make. Thank You SIR for sticking up for everyone's rights.

    Joe

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Congratulations and thank you!
    Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Thanks for the report Frank. See you at the club.
    Μολὼν λάβε

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Me: No guns are just inanimate machines - just like cars - and last time I checked - there were far more people killed by cars than firearms. Firearms aren't evil - but people can be evil
    One could add to the last statement...
    -but people can be evil, rude, ignorant and obnoxious.!

    Good Job.

    And, it is hard to believe people believe that kind of rhetoric and vehemetly so. And what idiot decides to argue any issue with someone who is obviously armed? Apparently she did not think you and your gun were real threats, then, huh?

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Congratulations! The funny thing is the DM would have hugged you and professed her undying gratitude had you been put in a position to defend her and her boys from the threat of bodily injury.....

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
    than to those attending too small a degree of it."~Thomas Jefferson, 1791
    Hobson fundraiser Remember SFN Read before you Open Carry

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Since I work in Ohio, I wasn't aware of the murder and the beatings that have happened on SEPTA until I was talking to my wife this morning. Based on that, I decided that instead of just my usual 1 spare mag - I was carrying 2 mags and a BUG....

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Good job, and always carry a bug!

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    Default Re: Kicking off the OC season for 2008 - Phila and suburbs

    Quote Originally Posted by lprgcFrank View Post
    DM: That's Disgusting
    Oh boy.

    Lady, sticking your nose in other peoples business is "disgusting" not to mention obnoxious, rude and why would anyone, less a complete stranger, care to hear your unsolicited opinion?


    In all seriousness. I probably would have just smiled and said well then don't do it.


    Great job Frank. Glad I got to meet you today. And I can't believe some wombat called your purty 1911 "disgusting".

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