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    Default Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    If one had a LTCF but an expired PA DL and a valid out of state DL would buying a pistol at a PA FFL be possible showing the LTCF (which is valid)?

    This is from the ATF:
    The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

    [18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]

    So I do reside here but I am moving very soon out of state. I don't imagine any FFL would sell to me with an out of state DL but would the LTCF work, as I don't believe I violate this law.

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakers View Post
    If one had a LTCF but an expired PA DL and a valid out of state DL would buying a pistol at a PA FFL be possible showing the LTCF (which is valid)?

    This is from the ATF:


    So I do reside here but I am moving very soon out of state. I don't imagine any FFL would sell to me with an out of state DL but would the LTCF work, as I don't believe I violate this law.
    Are you stationed here in the military?

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    Should have bought the pistol before you changed ypur residency. wherever you have your new license is where you need to buy your handguns.

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    You don't need a PA driver's licence to purchase a handgun in PA.

    What you do need is to prove 3 months residency in PA via utility bills and if you are a non-American, you need to have a valid greencard.
    Last edited by dgill; June 10th, 2011 at 10:51 AM.
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    I wonder what kind of retention holsters everyone wore 150 years ago?

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by dgill View Post
    You don't need a PA driver's licence to purchase a handgun in PA.

    What you do need is to prove 3 months residency in PA via utility bills and if you are a non-American, you need to have a valid greencard.
    The seller needs to inspect his Pa DL or ID card. Many places will not accept a LTCF as an "official" government picture ID. If he shows an expired DL or a valid out of state one, I bet you there is no sale without a shipment to a FFL in his new state.

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by dgill View Post
    You don't need a PA driver's licence to purchase a handgun in PA.

    What you do need is to prove 3 months residency in PA via utility bills and if you are a non-American, you need to have a valid greencard.
    PA requires new residents to get a PA drivers license within 60 days of moving into PA. If you prove 90 days residency with an out of state drivers license...

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    OK, thanks for the information guys.

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybeez View Post
    PA requires new residents to get a PA drivers license within 60 days of moving into PA. If you prove 90 days residency with an out of state drivers license...
    You can use an international drivers license for up to a year. I used one for a year due to the fact that my Dutch license was not recognized in PA and I needed to take the whole darn drivers exam again........did pass with flying colors.

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    Default Re: Can I buy a pistol with a LTCF

    my dl expired by 6 months. i went in filled out the forms dealer called in i walked out with my pistol.

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