Dec 1st & 2nd: Firearms All Over Philly Council's Agenda **UPDATE**

[Devrbd]

Any legislation that contains the words 'Clarke' and 'firearms' is likely illegal.

December 1st:

Public Hearing Notice

The Committee on Public Safety of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Wednesday, December 1, 2010, at 2:00 PM, in Room 400, City Hall, to hear testimony on the following item:

An Ordinance amending Chapter 10-818 of The Philadelphia Code to provide that no person shall carry a firearm on public streets or public property unless the person is licensed to carry such firearm by a political subdivision of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, regardless of whether the person possesses a license issued in another state, under certain terms and conditions.

Copies of the foregoing item are available in the Office of the Chief Clerk of the Council, Room 402, City Hall. Immediately following the public hearing, a meeting of the Committee on Public Safety, open to the public, will be held to consider the action to be taken on the above listed item.

LINK:
http://legislation.phila.gov/meeting...ing_Notice.pdf

http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...permitted.html

December 2nd:

Bills On Second Reading & Final Passage

080015
INTRODUCED BY: Councilmembers Miller and Clarke
An Ordinance amending Chapter 10-800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Safety," by adding a new Section to prohibit the possession or acquisition of firearms by persons charged with certain criminal offenses, during the pendency of such charges, under certain terms and conditions.

080016
INTRODUCED BY: Councilmembers Miller and Clarke
An Ordinance amending Chapter 10-800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Safety," by adding a new Section, entitled "Acquisition or Transfer of Firearms," to regulate the acquiring or transferring of any firearm within the City of Philadelphia; all under certain terms and conditions.

080034
INTRODUCED BY: Councilmembers Clarke and Miller
An Ordinance amending Chapter 10-800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Safety," by adding a new Section 10-834, entitled "Sale or Transfer of Ammunition," to require all sales of ammunition for firearms to be reported to the City of Philadelphia Police Department and to require that Department to maintain a registry of such reports; all under certain terms and conditions.

080036
INTRODUCED BY: Councilmembers Clarke and Miller
An Ordinance amending Chapter 10-800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Safety," by adding a new Section, entitled "Reporting Requirements Upon the Application for or Renewal of a License to Carry a Firearm," to provide for certain reporting requirements for the issuance or renewal of licenses to carry firearms within the City of Philadelphia; all under certain terms and conditions.

FULL AGENDA:
http://legislation.phila.gov/meeting...28Short%29.pdf

FOR COMPLETE LEGISLATION TEXT, GO HERE AND ENTER BILL #:
http://legislation.phila.gov/mattersearch/

[Yellowfin]

Official oppression charges are being filed against those attempting this, yes? Even trying to enact such laws is a crime under state law, and since it's defined as such by the state, it triggers federal law against it as well. If not, then what the hell are we waiting for?

[Devrbd]

Official oppression charges are being filed against those attempting this, yes? Even trying to enact such laws is a crime under state law, and since it's defined as such by the state, it triggers federal law against it as well. If not, then what the hell are we waiting for?

This is crazy. Bill #080034 is basically an ammunition registry and bill #080036 is a firearms registry for anyone applying for their LTCF.

[Devrbd]

And as I read it, Bill #080016 would be Philly's version of PICS/NICS for anyone purchasing a firearm in the city or bringing one in.

[billamj]

As I read it nothing proposed by councilmen Ass and Hat would be legal since they are, once again, trying to violate state laws. When will they learn? Maybe the new gov. will go after cities that try crap like this. We can hope anyway.

[thefirstndsecond]

Notified NRA-ILA. Some one please call FOAC as well. We need help.

[-JD-]

Notified NRA-ILA. Some one please call FOAC as well. We need help.

Click on the link in YOUR sig-line and then click on "Officers" each has an email link. Or to save you a click: http://www.foac-pac.org/officers.html

[ChamberedRound]

As I read it nothing proposed by councilmen Ass and Hat would be legal since they are, once again, trying to violate state laws. When will they learn? Maybe the new gov. will go after cities that try crap like this. We can hope anyway.

They're not going to learn until the DA actually threatens them with charges of Official Oppression, or acts upon them after the laws are passed. But given that the DA is a political ally, the chances of it happening are slim to none.

[TravisBickle]

I wonder if the mail-order ammo sales will honor Philly's registration requirements, or if they will simply ignore them and ship to Philly addresses.

[LTCcarrier]

This is a clear cut violation of the UFA. Now for those who put me on ignore, or bashed me for stating that the NRA is of little use, I hope you will ask and have the NRA assist to immediately quash this illegal legislation. If this is passed without opposition it will spread throughout your state. Many companies refuse mail order sales of C&R or regular firearms or ammo if there is the slightest chance of any legal problems.