Question for the FFLs here.

[HiredGoon]

I've never seen this particular question addressed before.

I know regardless of family ties (spouse, parent, child, grandparent, grandchild)
that a pistol transfer from out of state to a PA resident has to go from FFL there to FFL here, as per federal regulations.

So... say I am going to the other state where the gun is and am arranging for it to be transferred back to PA.

Must I be the one to pick it up when I return here... or can a I specify another individual to pick it up and go thru the transfer process.

I am not the eventual owner of the gun, but the person picking it up would be. I am just doing him a favor by taking care of the shipping on that end.

BTW, everyone involved here are family.

The person with the gun is my mother in state on west coast. She is transferring it to her grandson who is my nephew

I am visiting mom and she wants me to take of of having the gun shipped back here for her grandson.

[JayBell]

you dont have to ship from a FFL TO a FFL, the handgun just needs to be shipped to a FFL on the buyers end.

on the PA end, the FFL logd it in form who they received it from, then transfers it to whoever is picking it up.

thats it.

[Pa. Patriot]

you dont have to ship from a FFL TO a FFL, the handgun just needs to be shipped to a FFL on the buyers end.

Yup

on the PA end, the FFL logd it in form who they received it from, then transfers it to whoever is picking it up.

thats it.

Yup again


So in the case the OP details, just have the nephew pick it up. If you pick it up it would require another FFL transfer (in order for *you*) to comply with 18Pa.C.S.6111.

There is no issue with you or your mother shipping the gun (or having an FFL ship) to a Pa. FFL. Of course follow shipping regs (no USPS for you or mom, etc)


So what kind of gun is it?

[HiredGoon]

OK, sounds good, I wanted to be clear that my nephew could pick it up being I was the one who would be shipping it, especially if I use an FFL.

Didn't want to have anything look suspicious on this end

Of course I'd just inform the PA FFL who will be picking it up.

Now, if I can convince mom to give the gun to me instead of nephew...

It's a S&W, Model 19-4, .357 mag., 4" barrel. Excellent condition.

Thanks guys.

[c3prret]

Didn't see it posted, but hopefully the nephew is 21+

[HiredGoon]

Didn't see it posted, but hopefully the nephew is 21+

Sure is... and he's a federal LEO prison guard

[HiredGoon]

There is no issue with you or your mother shipping the gun (or having an FFL ship) to a Pa. FFL. Of course follow shipping regs (no USPS for you or mom, etc)

Is FedEx or UPS more "gun friendly" for us non-FFLs to ship a handgun if we decided to send it back here to a PA FFL ourselves?

Do the contents of the package need to be disclosed and/or special labels, stickers or whatever?

[tl_3237]

When you are shipping a package that contains a handgun, you must verbally notify the UPS driver or UPS Customer Center clerk.
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res...h_phr=firearms



Upon presenting the goods for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to Carrier is required to notify Carrier that the shipment contains a firearm. The outside of the package(s) must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package(s) contains a firearm.
http://www.fedex.com/us/freight/rule..._articles.html

See packaging requirements in both links. In summary - you must declare and no ID on package as to its contents.

[Pa. Patriot]

Is FedEx or UPS more "gun friendly" for us non-FFLs to ship a handgun if we decided to send it back here to a PA FFL ourselves?

Their std policies are pretty similar however individual locations will be more or less "friendly" than others. Also, "UPS Stores", (franchise) don't ship guns by policy, but some don't know the policy

Do the contents of the package need to be disclosed and/or special labels, stickers or whatever?

As tl_3237 above. Not just UPS/FedEX policy but the requirement to disclose and not put marking s on outside of package are also fed regulation.

[HiredGoon]

OK, so I guess I don't run into UPS and excitedly yell in a loud voice....

"I have a gun!"

Got it

Seems like shipping it myself might be the best way to do it. I can pack it how I wish and it would be one less person involved in the process.

Although since FFLs can ship via USPS, I imagine shipping it myself via UPS/FedEx would cost more.

Or would it work out the same since the FFL will of course add in his fee along with the actual postage.

Thanks, guys