Man Threatens To Assasinate Obama

[Evolution]

MIAMI — A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.
A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."
Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.
Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.
Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.
Geisel's court-appointed attorney declined comment.
In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.
A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.
Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.
In the affidavit, the Secret Service said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.


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[dc dalton]

I hate to say it but it was bound to happen.

What scares the hell out of me (and I even hate to say this out loud) is that one of these whack job actually does it ... can you IMAGINE the riots? OMFG I can't even begin to think the problems that would come out of that.

[Evolution]

Just another reason to be armed with a gun.

[mikepro8]

Okay....
the thing that weirds me out is this....
So, they arrest him for threatening a Senator who is running for president. He does nothing to carry out the threat, just angry speak (which, last I checked is okay - to a certain extent). He said that if Obama gets elected, THEN he would assassinate him.
HES NOT ELECTED!!!!
Even locally, when people make threats with an "if clause" (if the cops come here, Im gonna shoot them, for ex.) it is not an arrestable offense (in PA, anyway) There has to be a threat. IF is not a threat.

So, Secret service arrests this guy for threatning a Senator (celebrity), but not for his threats against the POTUS?

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... why the differentiation?

[dc dalton]

Okay....
the thing that weirds me out is this....
So, they arrest him for threatening a Senator who is running for president. He does nothing to carry out the threat, just angry speak (which, last I checked is okay - to a certain extent). He said that if Obama gets elected, THEN he would assassinate him.
HES NOT ELECTED!!!!
Even locally, when people make threats with an "if clause" (if the cops come here, Im gonna shoot them, for ex.) it is not an arrestable offense (in PA, anyway) There has to be a threat. IF is not a threat.

So, Secret service arrests this guy for threatning a Senator (celebrity), but not for his threats against the POTUS?

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... why the differentiation?

The part of the story that is missing (just heard it on the news) is that he also threatened to kill Bush WHICH is a felony. Also threatening to kill anyone is what is known as terroristic threats and it in itself is a felony ... how do I know? Some asshole had me arrested and charged with it years ago (was total BS, charges were later dismissed)

[PisnNapalm]

An Obama presidency could be marked as one of the shortest ever. I'm not surprised by this threat. I'm surprised more of them haven't been made.

[headcase]

He actually had me on his side until the," I suffer from PTSD....." quote. Last I checked, psychiatric problems were a major disqualifier for possessing a firearm in this country.

[Evolution]

He actually had me on his side until the," I suffer from PTSD....." quote. Last I checked, psychiatric problems were a major disqualifier for possessing a firearm in this country.

I know. I was like wtf... he was only talking among friends and wasn't being literal. Then he came out with that and it went right down the crapper.

[Pector55]

I wonder how many are thinking it but are smart enough not to talk about it. This is the 2nd one I've heard of and the guy is not even the official Dem nominee yet. I don't recall any talk like this in previous elections. We are quite polarized as a nation right now.

[MrUgly]

He actually had me on his side until the," I suffer from PTSD....." quote. Last I checked, psychiatric problems were a major disqualifier for possessing a firearm in this country.

Find me a combat vet that doesn't have some form of PTSD, at one time or another, and I'll show you someone I'm afraid of. Killing people in job lots will screw with anyone's headn and yeah, they do it for King and Country, but it's still a mind job. The stable ones deal with it, get over it and make their experiences work for them.