PAFOA Membership Rights

**mickey01023** · June 20th, 2009, 07:28 PM

I see a lot of people on here telling there story about being hassled by stateys, local pd, park rangers. Some of them end up with there rights being trampled and they take it in the ass and its not right. What I propose is, when you pay for your membership, the people who run this site mail a list of rights that you should know in case ever stopped by a LEO. I know I would pay an extra couple bucks to have a laminated printed copy of my rights that I could shove in there face and quote the crime code to them. I guess you could make it mandatory or an option. When you pick your package you want to sign up for you could have a yes or no section to donating (idk what it would cost for postage and supplies) extra ----- for pocket guide to your rights with the PAFOA logo on it...maybe even make it a membership card with the rights on it. Because I saw the thread where the Moon Township Police totally violated his rights, I think if he were to show the police Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Member and he started quoting his rights, I think they would have thought twice and or left the person alone in fear of "oh no this guy knows his rights I can't take liberties with him and he could have my ass". I think its a real proactive way to defend the 2nd amendment and promote a better imagine of firearm owners.

I tell gun owners about this site but ya know there like uh huh website apaowqfoafoa ok i'll check it out lol I think there would be more members

just a thought, let me know what you guys think

Also to help deter LEOs from violating gun owner rights you could put what legal action would follow each violation.

**Curmudgeon** · June 20th, 2009, 07:34 PM

OR...

You could just download the thing, print and laminate it yourself!

For FREE!!

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...carry-you.html

**mickey01023** · June 20th, 2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

OR...

You could just download the thing, print and laminate it yourself!

For FREE!!

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...carry-you.html

oh thats cool i havn't seen that before...i'll have to print one out...

But I still think a membership card of sorts stating you belong to a crew that you can't fuck with is a better message.

**andrewjs18** · June 20th, 2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by mickey01023

oh thats cool i havn't seen that before...i'll have to print one out...

But I still think a membership card of sorts stating you belong to a crew that you can't fuck with is a better message.

most of us keep a few spares in the car or in our pocket to hand them out when we can.

**Emptymag** · June 20th, 2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by mickey01023

oh thats cool i havn't seen that before...i'll have to print one out...

But I still think a membership card of sorts stating you belong to a crew that you can't fuck with is a better message.

I can send you a card that sez "Emptymag says Fu¢k Off!" if you'd like...

Emptyalwayswantedtohaveacrewmag

**NP1724** · June 20th, 2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I can send you a card that sez "Emptymag says Fu¢k Off!" if you'd like...

Emptyalwayswantedtohaveacrewmag

I'll take one, it will be a backup in case my "dont f^^k with me" bumper stickers and official PAFOA dew rag don't scare em off.

**headcase** · June 20th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by mickey01023

I see a lot of people on here telling there story about being hassled by stateys, local pd, park rangers. Some of them end up with there rights being trampled and they take it in the ass and its not right. What I propose is, when you pay for your membership, the people who run this site mail a list of rights that you should know in case ever stopped by a LEO. I know I would pay an extra couple bucks to have a laminated printed copy of my rights that I could shove in there face and quote the crime code to them. I guess you could make it mandatory or an option. When you pick your package you want to sign up for you could have a yes or no section to donating (idk what it would cost for postage and supplies) extra ----- for pocket guide to your rights with the PAFOA logo on it...maybe even make it a membership card with the rights on it. Because I saw the thread where the Moon Township Police totally violated his rights, I think if he were to show the police Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Member and he started quoting his rights, I think they would have thought twice and or left the person alone in fear of "oh no this guy knows his rights I can't take liberties with him and he could have my ass". I think its a real proactive way to defend the 2nd amendment and promote a better imagine of firearm owners.

I tell gun owners about this site but ya know there like uh huh website apaowqfoafoa ok i'll check it out lol I think there would be more members

just a thought, let me know what you guys think

Also to help deter LEOs from violating gun owner rights you could put what legal action would follow each violation.

A.) Membership cards are not going to happen, as per the last time the subject was brought up to Danp, IIRC.

B.) Membership cards will not make an overzealous cop stop being overzealous. They may even become lodged in your rectal area if you were to wave one in a cop's face, with the, "Do you know who I am?", line of bullshit.

Buy a t-shirt, that'll show 'em...

**mickey01023** · June 21st, 2009, 12:34 AM

I didn't know that the owner guy said no to cards...

idk about that if a cop trys some shit and play it right...like a i fucking dare you, my group will have your job, any earnings for the next 50 years and jail time...if you got a prop to back that up then it would work....

did he say why no membership cards?

**wa3ra** · June 21st, 2009, 12:51 AM

Read your last sentence. remember that shit flows downhill, and if we were to stir up a bunch in the name of PAFOA, it's Dan's coffee cup where the floaters are going to end up.