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February 9th, 2010, 05:55 PM #1Junior Member
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New to Site, need some help
I am 20, soon to be 21 in September. I have done my share of studying on open carry and concealed carry (for when I'm 21) of pistols. Well today I met another member of this site at a Sheetz gas station and he assured me if I was gifted a gun from my father, I could legally carry the pistol "open carry" with proper licensing till I'm 21. So my questions are...
1) Is he right, can I legally carry a pistol "open carry" till I turn 21?
2) If so, what licensing do I need?
3) I understand if this is allowed I would not be allowed to carry it loaded in my car, but where else?
Any help, answers, links to article that says this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks guys!
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February 9th, 2010, 05:57 PM #2
Re: New to Site, need some help
he is correct in that you can legaly Open Carry while on foot inside of PA but outside of a city of the first class (Phillys the only first class city in PA).
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February 9th, 2010, 06:02 PM #3
Re: New to Site, need some help
the basics.
yes at 18 if gifted a pistol you may carry openly on foot only... and not in Philly.
you cannot transport it in a vehicle ( even unloaded) for the purpose of OCing somewhere else, to transport a firearm without a LTCF to anywhere other than a shooting range is illegal !
so if you leave your house on foot and walk everywhere, yes you can carry.Tigers love pepper, they don't like cinnamon !
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February 9th, 2010, 06:06 PM #4
Re: New to Site, need some help
There are a few other exceptions, but they are indeed very limited. Here are the ones that would most likely apply to an open carrier under the age of 21.
(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
(8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S § 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
(9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
(10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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February 9th, 2010, 06:54 PM #5
Re: New to Site, need some help
Before you go any further daydreaming about open carrying a firearm, please... get some retention training first.
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February 9th, 2010, 07:16 PM #6
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Since when did anyone start thinking Philly s first class with anything? lol
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February 9th, 2010, 11:45 PM #7
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I quoted this because it bears repeating.
I would also feel comfortable adding that it would appear that if your parent (or spouse, if you are married) has a LTCF you would be exempt from licensing while operating a vehicle that was registered to you or them, if they owned the firearm:
(13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
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than to those attending too small a degree of it."~Thomas Jefferson, 1791
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February 10th, 2010, 12:36 AM #8Grand Member
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Re: New to Site, need some help
(13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
I liked that law until this thread, I realized it refers to parent or spouse who 'owns' a firearm. How is that to be proved as we have no registration. Both of my main carry pieces were received after the death of the original owners so there is no direct paperwork pointing to me officially. I am now concerned an anti-gun DA could have a field day with that loophole.It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch
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February 10th, 2010, 12:49 AM #9
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I would have to say that it would be up to the state to prove lack of claimed ownership, as they would have no logical reason to believe one's claim of ownership is fallacious unless a disputing claim had been made... or you could point out that firearms do not have licenses issued for them...
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
than to those attending too small a degree of it."~Thomas Jefferson, 1791
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February 10th, 2010, 01:02 AM #10Grand Member
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Re: New to Site, need some help
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