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    Default Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Does any here ever used a Mosin Nagant for hunting.

    Can it be used for hunting in PA?

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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Of course. Its a bolt action .30 caliber. Hunting ammo is readily available.
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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl/PA View Post
    Of course. Its a bolt action .30 caliber. Hunting ammo is readily available.
    As long as it isn't in one of those special regs areas....
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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Quote Originally Posted by TB215 View Post
    Does any here ever used a Mosin Nagant for hunting.

    Can it be used for hunting in PA?
    Used mine this year!!
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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    I know several guys who've hunted deer with a Mosin-Nagant rifle.

    But first you have to find deer.

    It's a real challenge, too. You aren't allowed to hunt within like 50 yds of a highway, yet given all the roadkill deer along the Commonwealth's roads, it appears as if the vast majority of Pennsylvania's deer population lives within 15 yds of highways.

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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    I know several guys who've hunted deer with a Mosin-Nagant rifle.

    But first you have to find deer.

    It's a real challenge, too. You aren't allowed to hunt within like 50 yds of a highway, yet given all the roadkill deer along the Commonwealth's roads, it appears as if the vast majority of Pennsylvania's deer population lives within 15 yds of highways.

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    I think they only "live(s) within 15 yds of highways" for the last few seconds of their lives.
    Sighting with the Mosin-Nagant is pretty crude, but probably OK from a stand in close cover.

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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    The Moisin-Nagant that I own...I have not hunted with it....was surprisingly accurate. Shooting from the prone position, I was able to keep all the shots in a four inch grouping. That's plenty accurate for hunting whitetails at 100 yards, especially if you have a rest of some sort.
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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    The 7.62x54R is actually slightly more powerful than the 30-06.
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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    The 7.62x54R is actually slightly more powerful than the 30-06.
    Wrong! Show me the data...?

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    Default Re: Can you hunt with a Mosin-Nagant?

    The 7.62x54mmR is a very potent cartridge, in the same power class as the .30-06 Springfield. The spitzer bullets used in the military variants have a particularly elongated shape which results in a relatively high ballistic coefficient contributing to good long range performance and high retained energy. Data for a 12.0 g (185 gr) FMJ Match bullet boattail fired from a Dragunov sniper rifle at 823 m/s (2,700 ft/s) muzzle velocity, shows a retained energy of 1,012 J (746 ft·lbf) at 914 m (1,000 yd) with the bullet still traveling at supersonic speed .

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    The .30-06 is a very powerful cartridge designed when 1,100 yd (1 km) shots were expected. In 1906, the original M1906 .30-06 cartridge consisted of a 9.7 grams (150 gr), flat-base cupronickel-jacketed-bullet. After WWI, the U.S. military needed better long-range performance machine guns. Based on weapons performance reports from Europe, a streamlined, 11.2 grams (173 gr) boattail, gilding-metal bullet was used. The .30-06 cartridge, with the 11.2-gram (173-grain) bullet was called Cartridge, .30, M1 Ball. The .30-06 cartridge was far more powerful than the smaller Japanese 6.5 x 50mm Arisaka cartridge and was still much more powerful than the Japanese 7.7 x 58 Arisaka as well. The new M1 ammunition proved to be significantly more accurate than the M1906 round.[5]

    In 1938, the unstained, 9.8 grams (151 gr), flat-base bullet combined with the .30-06 case became the M2 ball cartridge. According to U.S. Army Technical Manual 43-0001-27, M2 Ball specifications required 835 metres per second (2,740 ft/s) minimum velocity, measured 24 metres (79 ft) from the muzzle. M2 Ball was the standard-issue ammunition for military rifles and machine guns until it was replaced by the 7.62 x 51 mm NATO round for the M14 and M60. For rifle use, M2 Ball ammunition proved to be less accurate than the earlier M1 cartridge

    A 185gr bullet at 2700fps trumps a 150gr at the same velocity.

    Barnes Cartridges of the World lists a standard WWII soviet issue round launching a 147gr bullet at 2840fps from the 29in barrel of the 91/30 Mosin Nagant vs the standard 150gr bullet at 2680fps of the US issue M2 ball rounds from the M1 Garand.

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