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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    Quote Originally Posted by pirateron View Post
    How exactly does one become "deserving" of such status? Do they need a certain post count, a certain rep level, a certain relationship...?
    I think the fact they're no longer with us earns them the title. We all know how important internet rep is (sarcasm) and things get complicated when you try to decide who is "deserving" of a status. You can ask 10 people what a person is like and get 10 different answers.

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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    Quote Originally Posted by P-11 shooter View Post
    I think the fact they're no longer with us earns them the title.
    Not necessarily. The Pittsburgh cop killer posted here. If he is ultimately found guilty and executed, I don't think any change in status would be warranted simply because he is no longer drawing breath.

    I think the standard should be fairly low - simply being a thoughtful contributing member (ie - a positive factor) would be enough. No need to have had a high-profile "incident" or be considered some 'extremist/activist', etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Not necessarily. The Pittsburgh cop killer poster here. If he is ultimately found guilty and executed, I don't think any change in status would be warranted simply because he is no longer drawing breath.

    I think the standard should be fairly low - simply being a thoughtful contributing member (ie - a positive factor) would be enough. No need to have had a high-profile "incident" or be considered some 'extremist/activist', etc.
    Excellent points

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Excellent points
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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Not necessarily. The Pittsburgh cop killer posted here. If he is ultimately found guilty and executed, I don't think any change in status would be warranted simply because he is no longer drawing breath.

    I think the standard should be fairly low - simply being a thoughtful contributing member (ie - a positive factor) would be enough. No need to have had a high-profile "incident" or be considered some 'extremist/activist', etc.
    I concur.

    But again, by whos standard is "a thoughtful contributing" forum user? Someone who brings gun knowledge to the table has more input than someone who posts pictures of their dog, but some users will butt heads with one and coddle the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirateron View Post
    I concur.

    But again, by whos standard is "a thoughtful contributing" forum user? Someone who brings gun knowledge to the table has more input than someone who posts pictures of their dog, but some users will butt heads with one and coddle the other.
    I think general consensus would be fine. I doubt that anyone would object for either SFN or 1861. Likewise, I doubt that anyone here would push for inclusion for executed cop killers. ETA: Why make it more difficult than it needs to be.

    In memoriam gets my vote.

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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    How about more than 50 posts, and you have not become infamous here or in the real world.

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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Not necessarily. The Pittsburgh cop killer posted here. If he is ultimately found guilty and executed, I don't think any change in status would be warranted simply because he is no longer drawing breath.
    Completely agree here. We don't want EVERY user no longer with us on this earth to be given such a title, for reasons stated by Greg.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    I think the standard should be fairly low - simply being a thoughtful contributing member (ie - a positive factor) would be enough. No need to have had a high-profile "incident" or be considered some 'extremist/activist', etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    I think general consensus would be fine.
    Again, agreed. If a user has positively influences or touched enough people's lives here (like SFN or 1861) such that those people ask for these users to be given an honorary title, and general consensus agrees, that's good enough for me.
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    I wouldn't think the bar would be too high either, but you always have to think it through.

    The problem with "rules" is that people can hold you to them, and PAFOA would never want to be forced to honor some idiot the same way it honors a dear friend.

    That's why a lot of times these decisions have a lot more to them than simply running with it. It's a pain, but it's the reality of being a public organization with lots of interest and attention.
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    Default Re: Member Ranking for Members who have passed away.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberedRound View Post
    Completely agree here. We don't want EVERY user no longer with us on this earth to be given such a title, for reasons stated by Greg.





    Again, agreed. If a user has positively influences or touched enough people's lives here (like SFN or 1861) such that those people ask for these users to be given an honorary title, and general consensus agrees, that's good enough for me.
    I was going to suggest putting it to a vote. It looks like you may have already covered it.

    The thing I might add is that some people may pass away and we would never know about it. we would think they just stopped posting.
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