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    Default LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    It took 35 days and $28.50 but my new plastic LTCF arrived safe and sound..... now the next thing I need is a supressor/silencer... I'll have to head to Eds sport shop for that...

    Anyways my question is: Does the LCTF cover rifles/long guns as well as pistols...?? meaning... Can I (have/not have) loaded rifles/shotguns/long-guns... say in my vehicle... even though I have a valid LTCF??

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by NEPAGUNNER View Post
    It took 35 days and $28.50 but my new plastic LTCF arrived safe and sound..... now the next thing I need is a supressor/silencer... I'll have to head to Eds sport shop for that...

    Anyways my question is: Does the LCTF cover rifles/long guns as well as pistols...?? meaning... Can I (have/not have) loaded rifles/shotguns/long-guns... say in my vehicle... even though I have a valid LTCF??
    NO !!!!

    For long guns you are STILL REQUIRED to have the weapons UNLOADED , with the ammo in a SEPERATE container. Now , that being said, my understanding is that something like a soft sided long gun case , with the weapon INSIDE and the ammo ( even in loaded mags) stored in the OUTSIDE pockets DOES meet the statutory requirement for unloaded storage during transport
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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by NEPAGUNNER View Post
    It took 35 days and $28.50 but my new plastic LTCF arrived safe and sound..... now the next thing I need is a supressor/silencer... I'll have to head to Eds sport shop for that...

    Anyways my question is: Does the LCTF cover rifles/long guns as well as pistols...?? meaning... Can I (have/not have) loaded rifles/shotguns/long-guns... say in my vehicle... even though I have a valid LTCF??
    No. Your LTCF only covers "Firearms" as defined by 18 Pa. C.S.A. § 6102:

    "Firearm" Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less
    than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18
    inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or
    any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of
    less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be
    determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the
    face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is
    applicable.

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by son of the revolution View Post
    NO !!!!

    For long guns you are STILL REQUIRED to have the weapons UNLOADED , with the ammo in a SEPERATE container. Now , that being said, my understanding is that something like a soft sided long gun case , with the weapon INSIDE and the ammo ( even in loaded mags) stored in the OUTSIDE pockets DOES meet the statutory requirement for unloaded storage during transport
    Does the long gun need to be locked in the case or have some sort of gun lock affixed to it?

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by NEPAGUNNER View Post
    It took 35 days and $28.50 but my new plastic LTCF arrived safe and sound..... now the next thing I need is a supressor/silencer... I'll have to head to Eds sport shop for that...

    Anyways my question is: Does the LCTF cover rifles/long guns as well as pistols...?? meaning... Can I (have/not have) loaded rifles/shotguns/long-guns... say in my vehicle... even though I have a valid LTCF??
    Sorry. I do not wish to start a debate. But you overpaid by $3.50 for your LTCF.

    The issuer is only allowed to charge upto $25 by PA law.

    If the issuer charged you over $25, they have committed a summary offence.

    I know and agree. The cash amount is pointless. But the fact it is against the law makes this very important.
    Last edited by biggs88; April 28th, 2010 at 12:17 AM.

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by QuackXP View Post
    Does the long gun need to be locked in the case or have some sort of gun lock affixed to it?
    I am unaware of any requirement to have the case/bag locked or a requirement to have the gun itself locked
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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    I apologize for asking this off-topic, but are you in Luzerne County? I am surprised about the 35 day wait. When I renewed last year (while Savokinas was still sheriff, mind you) I walked out with my LTCF in 15 minutes.
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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by lildobe View Post
    No. Your LTCF only covers "Firearms" as defined by 18 Pa. C.S.A. § 6102:
    So hypothetically if you had a SBR AR15 with lets say a 10" barrel, you would be able to carry it loaded in a vehicle?

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by Avi90 View Post
    So hypothetically if you had a SBR AR15 with lets say a 10" barrel, you would be able to carry it loaded in a vehicle?
    Yes.

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    Default Re: LTCF Arrived Today... whoo hooo.... Just one QUESTION

    Quote Originally Posted by biggs88 View Post
    Sorry. I do not wish to start a debate. But you overpaid by $3.50 for your LTCF.

    The issuer is only allowed to charge upto $25 by PA law.

    If the issuer charged you over $25, they have committed a summary offence.

    I know and agree. The cash amount is pointless. But the fact it is against the law makes this very important.

    actually it depends

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