Concealed Carry question

[The 4th Survivor]

I just wanna jump in for a second.
I am from NYC. I switched my drivers license from NY to PA to. Went immediately to the Sheriff to apply for my LTCF. I also downloaded/printed the app. I did not put any references on the app. Sheriff told me I needed references. I told him I just moved to PA and did not have any PA references. He said you need references. I put down 2 close friends from NY. They do not have to be PA references. I also told him that I already purchased a handgun. He prolly figured that I already passed the PICS. He approved app on the spot. And till this day the sheriff never checked the references.
GOOD LUCK and remember you have made some friends of this forum. Welcome!

If I can put down people I know from NY than its all good but here in philly the people I know I dont want knowing that I carry a gun around. If any of you guys want to be references for me that would be great, also I do meet all the other requirements, I never been arrested or have any type of mental illness record.

[Michele]

It seems that every county is different. I don't know why. I live in Erie county which is huge. The Erie county sheriff is pro-gun. Maybe that helps with the permits. Fill out the app and leave the references blank. See what they say. Then ask them if you really need PA residents/references. If not. Put you NY friends in. I did. Don't not apply because of references. And tell them the truth, that you would rather not put any locals down as a reference. Honesty usually works. Don't be afraid to express your concerns to the sheriff. You will get through this. Did you already buy a gun in PA? If you did then you passed the PICS. Don't sweat it. There is a x cop from philly on this forum. Maybe you can ask him some questions. I think his name is actually xcopinphilly, on this forum. Look around for him or pm him. He seems like a decent man and probably can give you some valuable information.
GOOD LUCK

[ExCopInPhilly]

Here in Philly, if you leave the references part blank, you will nopt get issued until you provide the references. I am sure you can think of someone who will be a reference, even if you have to try with people who live in NY, and write an explanation, or just give it when they interview you. Philly, also does a PICS and NCIC check on every permit application.

[Michele]

Just curious.
Do they normally check the references?
They didn't check mine. I asked my references.
What would happen if your reference gave a bad reference?
Whats is NCIC?

[Frenchy]

If I can put down people I know from NY than its all good but here in philly the people I know I dont want knowing that I carry a gun around. If any of you guys want to be references for me that would be great, also I do meet all the other requirements, I never been arrested or have any type of mental illness record.

Seeing we probably dont know you, it would also be fraud!!!

Do your self a favor, join a gun club, make friends then they can decide if they want to to be a referance to you...

Wow what next, maybe we can ask for people to endorce for a loan online!!!

[HiredGoon]

Just curious.
Whats is NCIC?

Hi Michele. NCIC is: National Crime Information Center.

NCIC is a computerized index of criminal justice information (i.e.- criminal record history information, fugitives, stolen properties, missing persons). It is available to Federal, state, and local law enforcement and other criminal justice agencies and is operational 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Website: http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm

[Michele]

Seeing we probably dont know you, it would also be fraud!!!

Do your self a favor, join a gun club, make friends then they can decide if they want to to be a referance to you...

Wow what next, maybe we can ask for people to endorce for a loan online!!!

I would never ask you for a loan Frenchy.
Can I at least drive the truck?

[Frenchy]

I would never ask you for a loan Frenchy.
Can I at least drive the truck?

Nope, but you where a passenger once. That is also some thing few get to say

[Michele]

Hi Michele. NCIC is: National Crime Information Center.

NCIC is a computerized index of criminal justice information (i.e.- criminal record history information, fugitives, stolen properties, missing persons). It is available to Federal, state, and local law enforcement and other criminal justice agencies and is operational 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Website: http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm

Thank You!
I bought 2 guns, so I guess I passed the PICS.
I got my permit, so I guess I passes NCIC.
And I did use to NYC references.
Thanks again.

[dmg1969]

Cumberland County did not check my references. I don't see the point of asking for them if they're not going to be contacted.

Just curious.
Do they normally check the references?
They didn't check mine. I asked my references.
What would happen if your reference gave a bad reference?
Whats is NCIC?