Corps of engineers lakes? and Township property

[jmarshall]

Any comments on the legalities of carrying on a boat? I am assuming that I would be fine on a lake or river that is commonwealth controlled. I also assume that the "state park" lakes are fine......anything special about USACE lakes?

Also, seeing as how the township building here is public property, does that mean that if I was asked to leave a meeting for being in possession of a weapon I wouldn't have to comply? Any comments on that scenario?

[knight0334]

Army Corp lakes are off-limits.

Township property is just like any other public property, and since they aren't allowed to make rules on carrying - they cant forbid carrying, unless there is a court facility or K-12 school there.

[jmarshall]

Army Corp lakes are off-limits.

could you cite that? I have been Googling forever and couldnt find anything

[markheck1]

Army Corps of Engineers Federal Regulation 36 CFR 327.13

(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other weapons is prohibited unless:
(1) In the possession of a Federal, state or local law enforcement officer;
(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under §327.8, with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or between hunting and fishing sites;
(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or
(4) Written permission has been received from the District Commander.
(b) Possession of explosives or explosive devices of any kind, including fireworks or other pyrotechnics, is prohibited unless written permission has been received from the District Commander.

[Steve in PA]

Army Corps of Engineers Federal Regulation 36 CFR 327.13

(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other weapons is prohibited unless:
(1) In the possession of a Federal, state or local law enforcement officer;
(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under §327.8, with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or between hunting and fishing sites;
(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or
(4) Written permission has been received from the District Commander.
(b) Possession of explosives or explosive devices of any kind, including fireworks or other pyrotechnics, is prohibited unless written permission has been received from the District Commander.

And the offense/punishment for violation of this "regulation"?

[B2Luv2Hunt]

Does that mean Raystown Lake is off limits.

[markheck1]

And the offense/punishment for violation of this "regulation"?

"Bailiff....Whack his pee pee!"

I can't believe I can't find a video clip for that, my Google fu must be weak......


18 CFR 327.25

Sec. 327.25 Violations of rules and regulations.

(a) Any person who violates the provisions of the regulations in
this part, other than for a failure to pay authorized recreation use
fees as separately provided for in Sec. 327.23, may be punished by a
fine of not more than $5,000 or imprisonment for not more than six
months or both and may be tried and sentenced in accordance with the
provisions of section 3401 of Title 18, United States Code. Persons
designated by the District Commander shall have the authority to issue a
citation for violation of the regulations in this part, requiring any
person charged with the violation to appear before the United States
Magistrate within whose jurisdiction the affected water resources
development project is located (16 U.S.C. 460d).
(b) Any person who commits an act against any official or employee
of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that is a crime under the provisions
of section 111 or section 1114 of Title 18, United States Code or under
provisions of pertinent state law may be tried and sentenced as further
provided under Federal or state law, as the case may be.

title 18 section 3401 deals with Misdemeanors and Probation,

[jmarshall]

Ok, so where would one need to write in order to get them to change this law?

[knight0334]

Ok, so where would one need to write in order to get them to change this law?

The same place it took to fix the National Parks, and federally funded railway transport under FOPA issue - US Senators and Representatives.

[ehidle]

Army Corps of Engineers Federal Regulation 36 CFR 327.13

Regulations are not Laws

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Nevermind, saw the later post