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    Default 5.56/.223 pistol options

    Ok, looking into a 5.56x45 pistol ala GRoPA's flamethrower. Obviously the Bushmaster Carbon 15 Type 97 is a strong player. I love the looks of the fluted barrel as opposed to a shrouded barrel. Bud's has them for ~715. What other companies should I consider? When I get one, it will probably end up with some sort of halo/red dot sight on it, if possible.

    What should I consider here? General opinions on AR pistols? Things to avoid?



    As I said at the last shoot when Carolyn picked up GRoPA's flamethrower, there goes my bank account!

    Edit to add: Pink grips, optional??
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    just kidding Lucas, I wish I had a lady who forced me to buy more guns!
    Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.- George Washington

    "I thought Lycan was a she"-dragonofpa

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    Go for it. You won't be sorry. More fun than should be allowed by law. Bill T.

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    Default Re: 5.56/.223 pistol options

    I would stay away from the bushmaster kaboom 15 i mean carbon 15

    you see them blown up quite often over at AR15.com



    i built my AR pistol with a DPMS kitty kat upper 7.5 inch barrel chrome lined 1/9 twist
    i have a noveske brake on it which tames it alot. i have a YHM 4 rail hand guard STD front sight, DPMS rear sight and a superior arms "pistol only" lower.


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    Default Re: 5.56/.223 pistol options

    i'd get a carbon 15 some of the others are to big, the one futon posted isnt much smalle than a full size AR, the keltec isnt to easy on the eyes; and i dont think it accepts ar15mags.. fits got size,weight,and looks IMO and i'd bet any blow ups are from idiots using the bigger loads that need atleast a 1:9 barrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD45 View Post
    and i'd bet any blow ups are from idiots using the bigger loads that need atleast a 1:9 barrel
    Very True. The Carbon models are just as, if not stronger than the Aluminum guns. People read something and right away it becomes holy writ. Bill T.

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    Default Re: 5.56/.223 pistol options

    I love my double star lower/JandE 10.5" upper pistol, just wish I would have started off with the 7.5!

    It's really one of the most fun guns that I have to shoot, and damn accurate too! Also, the damn thing could get run over by a brigade of trucks and would still shoot, extremely solid gun.


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    i can't believe the size of some of those "pistols" they're huge, even compared to the carbon 15 type 97.. now if you could put a stock on it it'd wet my pants... but i'd assume thats illegal?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD45 View Post
    i can't believe the size of some of those "pistols" they're huge, even compared to the carbon 15 type 97.. now if you could put a stock on it it'd wet my pants... but i'd assume thats illegal?!
    If it has a shoulder stock and a barrel less than 16" long it's a short barreled rifle and is a NFA gun. Most of these "hand made" AR pistols are nothing more than an AR with the stock off and a bare buffer tube. Bill T.

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    Default Re: 5.56/.223 pistol options

    Quote Originally Posted by billt View Post
    If it has a shoulder stock and a barrel less than 16" long it's a short barreled rifle and is a NFA gun. Most of these "hand made" AR pistols are nothing more than an AR with the stock off and a bare buffer tube. Bill T.

    but SBR's are so much fun.


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