FEDS RESPOND TO FIREARMS FREEDOM ACT LAWSUIT

[mjfletcher]

So the Interstate Commerce Clause trumps the rest of the Constitution?

Only in the minds of the feds twisted imagination. I think I'm badly wording what I'm trying to say.

The fed has distorted the interstate commerce clause in order to use it to violate both the rights of the individual and the rights of the states.
The states are seeking to reclaim the rights the fed has taken from them.
The states are using the feds distortion of the ICC to do an end run around the 2A as springboard to reclaiming their rights.
The states are doing this by saying "While the ICC allows you to infringe on individual 2A rights if the arms in question cross state lines it does not allow you to infringe on states rights if the arms in question remain wholly within the state of manufacture.
The states are simultaneously reclaiming the states rights being violated by the feds distortion of the ICC in regards to their internal governance while reinforcing the governments violation of individual rights through its distortion of the ICC to infringe on individual rights.

[brewguy]

I'm wondering what this is really going to change? Do you all think states are going to now allow New full auto guns? Or other things that are currently prohibited?

I agree it is good to change the way things are, just not sure it would have the effect we would be looking for. If this passed in PA I bet you would have PA laws doing the same things the FED law did.

[BigMikeM31]

Good Find. Tried to rep ya, but the button is currently experiencing some type of a failure to fire malfunction.

[MrBi11]

The FFA really isn't about firearms, it's about the federal government overstepping there jurisdiction, and the states getting up in there face.

I see it as a first step, with more to follow once this plays out..

I think [hope] the silent majority is waking up, maybe things will get back on track somewhat.

[Ask Coaley, how business as usual worked out for her]
[I think is hilarious that Washington blames her in any way for loosing]

[son of the revolution]

I'm wondering what this is really going to change? Do you all think states are going to now allow New full auto guns? Or other things that are currently prohibited?

I agree it is good to change the way things are, just not sure it would have the effect we would be looking for. If this passed in PA I bet you would have PA laws doing the same things the FED law did.

I cant speak to the other States Bills , as I have not read them. But as for Montana's law , it specifically DOES NOT legalize Full Auto's within State Lines. It addresses things like SBR's and similar items though

[Jorg Schlagzeuger]

The FFA really isn't about firearms, it's about the federal government overstepping there jurisdiction, and the states getting up in there face.

It is. I just hope that enough non-gun people, maybe even anti-gun people, who otherwise would like to see the federal powers restored to where they're supposed to be, can overlook the "gun" aspect of this bill and see it for what it is.

[Warpt762x39]

Only in the minds of the feds twisted imagination. I think I'm badly wording what I'm trying to say.

The fed has distorted the interstate commerce clause in order to use it to violate both the rights of the individual and the rights of the states.
The states are seeking to reclaim the rights the fed has taken from them.
The states are using the feds distortion of the ICC to do an end run around the 2A as springboard to reclaiming their rights.
The states are doing this by saying "While the ICC allows you to infringe on individual 2A rights if the arms in question cross state lines it does not allow you to infringe on states rights if the arms in question remain wholly within the state of manufacture.
The states are simultaneously reclaiming the states rights being violated by the feds distortion of the ICC in regards to their internal governance while reinforcing the governments violation of individual rights through its distortion of the ICC to infringe on individual rights.

The Feds have been pulling this crap for decades. The states aren't leaving us out to dry anymore than what we've already been dealing with.

BUT, the states are making an attempt to get some of their authority back. As it is, they really have none so the ICC will continue to be abused as it has been until the states have some sort of footing to stand on.

We need to get the Feds back on their heels before we can go whole hog and get the back in line. And it's going to have to happen in steps.

[Pector55]

How dare you guys question the queen's authority.




wait.. we don't have a queen... in that case, who is the asshole that thinks a central government should have all the say?

[Warpt762x39]

How dare you guys question the queen's authority.




wait.. we don't have a queen... in that case, who is the asshole that thinks a central government should have all the say?

How's this?

[Pector55]

How's this?

Well, we know what happened to the leader of that version.

...just saying