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January 16th, 2010, 09:42 PM #11
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
The case for group libel that I recall (vaguely) from law school, was a newspaper item that stated that all of the waiters at a particular restaurant were gay. It was a small enough group, and "all" was used, I believe they could sue. These days, it would be hard to find a court that would recognize "gay" as defamatory.
But saying that "all Democrats are criminals" isn't actionable; the group is too large, plus it's pretty clearly opinion. Same for "all gun owners". It also has to be believed, and cause harm.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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January 16th, 2010, 09:59 PM #12
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
Duly noted , and not to be argumentative ( Im trying to learn ) it seems to me one could certainly make the credible argument that a segment of the Anti Gun population certainly DOES believe the hype and that one, but by no means the only " harm caused " , would be arbitrary and capricious infringement on 2A rights, based on slanderous/libelous un supported hyperbole. No ?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
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January 16th, 2010, 10:45 PM #13
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
If God didn't intend us to have guns why would he have given us a trigger finger?
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January 16th, 2010, 11:44 PM #14
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
I don't understand how they count criminals who would have had their licenses revoked had the issuing state know their actual criminal status, people carrying with permits but illegally...
How pissed are you gonna be if you die before the Zombie Apocalypse comes? - - IANAL
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January 17th, 2010, 12:02 AM #15
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
All you have to understand about Josh Sugarmann is that he is a notorious pathological liar for admitting the VPC Strategy was to intentionally mislead people with this quote
"The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons,anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun,can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."
And the fact that he's an epic hypocrite considering that Mr Sugarmann currently holds a valid Federal Firearms Dealers License.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=338977Last edited by son of the revolution; January 17th, 2010 at 01:52 AM.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
Proud to be an Enemy of The State
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January 17th, 2010, 12:33 AM #16
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
You can wipe the drool off your chin now SotR
But isn't saying "all Democrats are criminals" a very vague statement not only for the group but for the action? I mean that statement could be true if the criminal aspect encompasses every small crime. Jaywalking for example or more accurately (it seems) not paying taxes.
That's a very generalized statement all around.
Saying concealed handgun permit holders are cop killers is a very direct action connected with a group of people. And it's not an action that has no harm connected to it. Saying all concealed handgun permit holders are rednecks.
It's a generalized term, it doesn't imply they do harm. But calling them cop killers does. It's telling people that anyone who owns a gun is going to kill the next cop they see. It's instilling fear into people of a group of law abiding, mostly harmless people.
That was a lot more big words than my tired brain can handle at the moment. I don't have a clue what you said lol
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January 17th, 2010, 12:46 AM #17
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
Originally Posted by Warpt762X39
Originally Posted by son of the revolution
You basically asked the same question I did, just in a less "wordy " way lol Slight fix for yaSi vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
Proud to be an Enemy of The State
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January 17th, 2010, 01:20 AM #18
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January 17th, 2010, 02:58 PM #19
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
"There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order."
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January 17th, 2010, 03:25 PM #20
Re: " Concealed handgun permit holders dont protect police officers. They kill them.
It's sickening how some of these anti-gun people think.
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