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    Default Re: The UN, always causing trouble...

    Ha.....listen to this comment at 5:38. That is one of the reasons why I left Europe.......you don't live.............you are being lived. Take it from me when I say that citizens over there have nothing to say and now they want to try and change the "Constitution of THIS Nation?"

    You have to be kidding me right?...............


    "Dictators around the world hate the United States because the United States is free. They are scared of your guns and they will try to come and get them"

    Maybe I should nail the following on the UN building.

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    Last edited by D10; January 12th, 2010 at 11:24 PM.
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    Default Re: The UN, always causing trouble...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowfin View Post
    Guess what, that's what all socialists, European and US (they don't qualify as Americans to me), think of us. That's how they justify the anti gun laws they pass, exactly the same as they did racial laws. In fact most anti gun laws are one in the same with Jim Crow laws and exist because of the same Supreme Court decisions.
    Actually, no.

    You assume all Socialists are 'liberals', and that all 'liberals' are antigun.

    I know more than one member here who are marxists, socialists, social democrats and the like. Economic stance has little do do with social opinions for anyone who is serious about their opinions, IMHO...
    Just because 'perfect' is impossible does not mean we should settle for 'broken'.

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    Default Re: The UN, always causing trouble...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowfin View Post
    Guess what, that's what all socialists, European and US (they don't qualify as Americans to me), think of us. That's how they justify the anti gun laws they pass, exactly the same as they did racial laws. In fact most anti gun laws are one in the same with Jim Crow laws and exist because of the same Supreme Court decisions.
    Personally, I worry more about the fact that there are people in this country who don't think some people are True Americans simply because they have different beliefs then they do..

    The UN is a joke, it was somewhat useful in a limited way before international phone calls were as simple as picking up a phone, and you actually needed a place for world leaders to err. "talk" Or slam their shoes on the desks in some cases.. (ahh the good old days.. lol)

    The UN can't get Japan or NORWAY to stop hunting whales for fuck's sake..

    I know alot of people here think todays population is a bunch of sheep, and in many ways they are. However they're only sheep because people look for Nazi's.. Not Bankers to steal their freedoms. At least in my lifetime they know they can't be so obvious, the instinct to kill any obvious threat is still strong in our society.

    Not to mention a millisecond that even such a treaty would ever signed (and I do mean the term loosely) You'd have 2nd amendment cases and motion for delays filed all over the nation.. Meh.. The supreme court was able to stop "some" of President Bush's agenda and his team was a SHIT load more organized and had his party in lockstep behind him. Obama has neither, nor does he have the political capital, support from the hill, and currently still has one of the biggest pathetic jokes of a PR team ever to exist since Kerry was running.. They can't sell helping given people health care, You honestly think he or any democrat could ever have the balls or the ability to implement such a plan? LOL.. The Dems are in Disarray and getting dumber by the day, and the Republicans are.. I'm sorry.. Alot of the them are wacko..

    Ironically, I don't think a UN convoy could make it out of NYC without being bitch Slapped.

    Gangsters still have plenty of guns.. lol

    Beside, is there a 3 hour online course on making cheesy propaganda films?

    Ominous music? Check.
    Images of Democracy? Check.
    Clips of 3 or 4 people from the most anti-gun countries on earth out of over 160 carefully edited with no back story or context? Check.
    Japan?, Canada?, They mean shit. Sorry to my Canadian friend's, If your not on the Security council your ideas and resolutions are meaningless. China will never agree to international control of internal firearm control. Neither will Russia, Since these two countries can be counted on a solid NO vote for any such resolutions, the US doesn't have to tell anyone to fuck off and can save face. It's slimy political bullshit.. It always has been. It's like teaching your kid to potty train, but you have to do it or you'll end up in a pile of it.. (nice metaphor eh?

    Oh and the Misguided lady.. Chances are she's had some sort of violent encounter with guns or weapons in general. Family member killed, some sort of scar that drives her.. He fear is her motivation. Eliminate that source of drive and you eliminate her as an opponent.

    You want to know why she's able to convince people to her viewpoint? Because she has her BS down tight, without anyone who can intellectuality stand toe to toe to her in beat the living crap out of her logic which is so frigging easy it's not even FUNNY.. It's about the debate people.. Past the bullshit, past the lies, past the cynicism.. It comes down to two people sitting across from each other and who wins the debate.. The Agrivating thing is, I honestly don't know how anyone can LOSE A gun debate.. Sure you may not change someones mind, but you can stomp on there talking points with very little work. Bah..

    Please for the love of god, we need to up our Debate IQ's.. Learn to separate the emotional hatred from the debate and learn how to win these debates.

    BTW.. That asshole who says "the US citizen doesn't have the blanket right blah blah" REALLY pisses me off to my core. I've worked with these people in the past, They use to know that there is a difference between warlords and roaming bands of bandits with AK-47's, and educated citizens possessing firearms.. This wasn't a cuase they poured alot of resources into.. We were trying to feel hungry people with food while being chanced by pickup trucks with mounted light anti-aircraft weapons on the back. (Ahh... Memories..) Wanna know how fast a WW2 Era Jeep can go? NOT FAST ENOUGH.. lol

    Man I must have missed damn memo, but it was inevidable.. Peoples pesonal crusades have now begun to pursue their own private little agendas using resources that could feed a village for a fucking year.. Which is one of the reasons I left. I got tired of the assholes who were perfect examples of "Think of the CHILDREN!!" shitheads saying how much we had to sacrifice and work hard, then afterwards they'd drive home in Mercedes while me and 30 other 20-25 year olds spend 4 months with the monsoon season, 120 degrees's of famine stricken desert for months, and being a virtual petri dish for every stomach virus in the universe.. broad based Anti-virus schedule my ass.. lol The F'ing Polio shot alot sucked so much I wanted to stab the doctor in the head with it..

    Sure we had many.. many.. GODDAMN so many arguments about how the US wasn't doing enough, or how alot of the worlds problems were the US's fault.. But it was mostly blowing off steam and needing someone to blame, and the small fact they had some reasonable points. However They were surprised when I came back at them with the total failure of Europe for allot longer time then the US has been in existence.It was interesting debate and remain friends with many still, and lost a few..

    One last thing.. It's a biggy..

    The Terrorists don't give a SHIT about us having guns. We have handguns. They carry Stinger's, AK'47's, and live in mud huts.. There is not one damn Muslim extremest who has ever even had the thought of the privately owned firearms statistics of this country. They're main goal is to destabilize and to disrupt our social order and harmony ala the Vietnam era. And holy crap do we deliver.. 4 months of BS about a birth Certificate while all they had to do was keep up the pressure.

    They don't even have to DO a successful attack anymore, they just have to show that they CAN and we implode just a tiny little more. I travel where I want, and I'm not going to let the fear of being harmed stop me.. Though the TSA is annoying enough to be close. Phhpt. Terrorists will at least slit your throat after some nice camera video. They're pussies when it comes to real warlords. Though the Taliban does come close..

    But again, i'm rambling..
    Last edited by Morel42; January 13th, 2010 at 04:16 AM.

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    Default Re: The UN, always causing trouble...

    Quote Originally Posted by Morel42 View Post
    The Terrorists don't give a SHIT about us having guns. We have handguns.
    Yeah right.....only handguns? ........are you sure about that?
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    Default Re: The UN, always causing trouble...

    Quote Originally Posted by Krssteel View Post
    Yeah right.....only handguns? ........are you sure about that?
    Well unless your Rifles have the a Full Auto ability somehow, then yes you own a glorified handgun..

    Abit with more accuracy and longer range but still a glorified handgun.


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