Does anybody use >230grs. in their .45acp?

[Kb! Bob]

Hey guys,
So I know in .40 and 9mm a lighter bullet= higher velocity, which works for those rounds becasue speed is their advantage. So .45acp was designed around 230gr bullets (correct?) and its advantage is size. I also know that in a lower pressure round such as .45acp, you dont lose velocity as dramatically as you would in, say, .40sw. So, in a shorter barrelled pistol such as, say, a Glock 30, do you think a 185gr+p or 200gr+p round is preferable, or is it advisable to stick with good ol 230 no matter what (and shot placement is key, of course )?

[GuyMontag]

Personally I think that's a whole wreck of over-engineering. Learn to place shots and don't worry about the extra 100 fps gain.

[Shawn.L]

Speer makes a really good line of SD ammo designed around short barrel guns. Buy it.

[DCChris]

I use 230gr Hydrashoks. My Colt 1991 seems to like them, no problems feeding and they group very nicely.

[fingers80002]

I carry 185gr +P Golden Sabers in my Kimber......

[Kb! Bob]

I carry 185gr +P Golden Sabers in my Kimber......

Heres my question, and I'm not trying to be a wise-ass I'm really trying to figure this out: Isn't .40sw in 180gr (with its higher pressure), aside from the obvious small circumference difference, essentially the same round as a 185gr. +P .45?

[levib]

Going down in projectile weight is easier within a specific platform, because lower weight projectiles don't need to be spun as hard to keep them stabilized. Spinning a projectile faster than it needs to be for stabilization doesn't detract much at all from precision. Going to a higher weight projectile in the same barrel can result in a less stabilized projectile which can be less precise or even keyhole at the target.

A 180 grain projectile should be about as precise as a 185 grain projectile out of a barrel with the same twist rate. If you're firing a 185 grain projectile out of a barrel designed for a 230 grain projectile, it should be very nearly as precise. If you fire a 250 grain (for instance) projectile out of the same barrel, it could be less precise or extremely imprecise.

The best thing you can do is try out different ammo. Pistols aren't so different from rifles as far as matching ammunition to the specific gun--it's just that the shooter's inadequacies translate more down range with a pistol, so it's harder to see.

[cruzans]

Hey guys,
So I know in .40 and 9mm a lighter bullet= higher velocity, which works for those rounds becasue speed is their advantage. So .45acp was designed around 230gr bullets (correct?) and its advantage is size. I also know that in a lower pressure round such as .45acp, you dont lose velocity as dramatically as you would in, say, .40sw. So, in a shorter barrelled pistol such as, say, a Glock 30, do you think a 185gr+p or 200gr+p round is preferable, or is it advisable to stick with good ol 230 no matter what (and shot placement is key, of course )?

Similar to a question I had. I recently purchased a Glock 39 ( 45 GAP ) and was told not to go over 185 - never to shoot 230 ? Thought I'd tag onto your thread if you don't mind to cover both 45's

[autotech6506]

Similar to a question I had. I recently purchased a Glock 39 ( 45 GAP ) and was told not to go over 185 - never to shoot 230 ? Thought I'd tag onto your thread if you don't mind to cover both 45's

ACP and GAP are two totally different .45s as far as I know there isn't a 45GAP round anywhere close to 230 grains. maybe he was trying to make sure you didn't buy 45ACP

[gumbys1up]

Not meaning to throw you off sir. but I just fired 230 gr out of my SA XD45GAP new years weekend. lol so yeah they make them. and the operated fine in my pistol.