"Do you have any *OTHER* weapons in the vehicle...?"

[zackattack784]

Why would anyone even answer this question? Am I free to go officer? That's all I would say. Why would anyone even consider giving in to their fishing expedition is beyond me.

ETA:

There's been tons of discussion about whether you have to answer an officer when he pulls you over for a traffic violation and he asks if there are any weapons in the vehicle.

The answer is NO NO NO NO NO. You don't have to say a single word, not one.

[riverpirate]

Oh lord I hope im never asked that question if im ever stopped. Lets list them , lol.

Well , its still hunting season so here it goes.

1. knife in drivers side door.
2. knife in center console
3. knife in glove compartment.
4. atleast one knife behind the seat.
5. big mag light under the seat.
6. tire iron behind the seat.
7. seatbelt cutter in driver side door.

Now to the back of the vehicle:
In my emergency box.
8. atleast 2-3 knives in the box/bob
9. machete in the box.
10. hachet in the box.

Ammo?
50 rds 380 in glovebox
50 rds of 9mm in glove box
50 rds of 40sw in glove box

behind seat
150 rds 9mm in shooting bag
100 rds of 40 sw in shooting bag
50 rds of 380 in shooting bag

in back of vehicle
1 extra 9mm mag
1 extra 40 sw mag
1 extra 380 mag
100 rds 9mm
100 rds 40 sw
50 rds 380
100 rds 7/12 12 gauge
10 rds 12 ga slugs
20 rds of 30-30


i think that is about it , lol. when hunting season is over ill take out a couple of knives and my shooting bag. the rest stays all the time.

[snakeman21]

Oh lord I hope im never asked that question if im ever stopped. Lets list them , lol.

Well , its still hunting season so here it goes.

1. knife in drivers side door.
2. knife in center console
3. knife in glove compartment.
4. atleast one knife behind the seat.
5. big mag light under the seat.
6. tire iron behind the seat.
7. seatbelt cutter in driver side door.

Now to the back of the vehicle:
In my emergency box.
8. atleast 2-3 knives in the box/bob
9. machete in the box.
10. hachet in the box.

Ammo?
50 rds 380 in glovebox
50 rds of 9mm in glove box
50 rds of 40sw in glove box

behind seat
150 rds 9mm in shooting bag
100 rds of 40 sw in shooting bag
50 rds of 380 in shooting bag

in back of vehicle
1 extra 9mm mag
1 extra 40 sw mag
1 extra 380 mag
100 rds 9mm
100 rds 40 sw
50 rds 380
100 rds 7/12 12 gauge
10 rds 12 ga slugs
20 rds of 30-30


i think that is about it , lol. when hunting season is over ill take out a couple of knives and my shooting bag. the rest stays all the time.

Wow. I'd love to see the look on an officers face after hearing you rattle that off to him.

[18902man]

I just don't understand why you would feel violated if a cop pulls you over and just wants to know if you have a weapon? If you were a criminal I would see saying no, but if you have a lic and you had your gun I would say yes and here is my lic. What is the big deal?
If you say no and he sees it or finds it I would think your in a lot more trouble.

[XD45]

I just don't understand why you would feel violated if a cop pulls you over and just wants to know if you have a weapon? If you were a criminal I would see saying no, but if you have a lic and you had your gun I would say yes and here is my lic. What is the big deal?
If you say no and he sees it or finds it I would think your in a lot more trouble.

The problem to me would the cop wanting to disarm me for "mine and his safety", or disarming me to run it against the lost/stolen database which may not seem like a big issue until an uninformed officer takes "no record found" to mean the gun isn't legal and then takes it.

Also what trouble will you be in if he does end up seeing it after you lied and said no initially(not saying it's a good idea just curious)?

[18902man]

well I don't see him getting annoyred or disarming you etc depending on why he pulled you over etc.

for what trouble would you be if you lied? well I think he would find things just because you lied I am sure somewhere in the ltcf there is a rule or law that you must let an officer know that you have it if asked and be able to provide lic just like a drivers lic

[normanvin]

well I don't see him getting annoyred or disarming you etc depending on why he pulled you over etc.

for what trouble would you be if you lied? well I think he would find things just because you lied I am sure somewhere in the ltcf there is a rule or law that you must let an officer know that you have it if asked and be able to provide lic just like a drivers lic

You haven't been here long have you? I suggest you take some time, make a big pot of coffee and start reading past threads.

There have been many instances where it starts out with Do you have any weapons in there. Then it escalates to please give it to me for my safety. He then takes it unloads it runs it through the illegal registration system. Then he comes back and tries to force his opinions on you. Then gives your gun back with a warning don't reload it until he is gone.

[son of the revolution]

You haven't been here long have you? I suggest you take some time, make a big pot of coffee and start reading past threads.

There have been many instances where it starts out with Do you have any weapons in there. Then it escalates to please give it to me for my safety. He then takes it unloads it runs it through the illegal registration system. Then he comes back and tries to force his opinions on you. Then gives your gun back with a warning don't reload it until he is gone.

Or confiscates it since he cant find it in the illegal registry thats not a registry ! Since I already anticipate being stopped once we get over there for good, Im already prepared for a shitstorm to start when they cant find my pistol in any database since their coming over the river with me from PSRNJ

[rikilii]

Why would anyone even answer this question? Am I free to go officer? That's all I would say. Why would anyone even consider giving in to their fishing expedition is beyond me.

ETA:

The answer is NO NO NO NO NO. You don't have to say a single word, not one.

That's great in theory, but I'm assuming that LEOs will usually ask "the question" as soon as they get to you. You're obviously not "free to go" at that point, because you're still being detained in connection with the traffic stop.

What then? Do you think most LEOs are simply going to move on to the next question if you refuse to answer or you give a cute answer like "I don't have any illegal weapons"?

It may be within your rights not to answer, but the issue here is how best to minimize the violation of your rights by further action (getting you out of the car, patting you down, taking your gun, running the serial number, etc.)

Perhaps another good answer to deflect the inquiry (assuming you look the part) would be: "Do I look like someone who would carry a weapon in my car?" Not only may that wrongly be interpreted by the cop as a "no" so he moves on to what's relevant, it is basically also another way of saying "do you have a reasonable suspicion that I'm armed"?

[son of the revolution]

"Do I look like someone who would carry a weapon in my car?"

To easy for the cop to throw right back at you with something like " As a matter of fact..............." or even a more true statement based on experience " I've found all kinds of people carrying weapons in my career"

Looking clean cut and law abiding in appearance may carry subtle visual que's that subconsciously lowers someone's guard. Asking a question based on appearance is nearly sure to result in a retort to deflect it right back. The 9-11 Hijackers didnt board the planes dressed in Arab Robes , they dressed as prototypical young professionals. Khaki's , button down shirts, etc. So what does someone that would carry a weapon look like ?