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December 26th, 2009, 12:24 AM #1
Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
No permit to carry concealed (will be heading to the Sheriff's office soon though), so, two questions:
Thus far, I've been transporting my pistol in it's original case, unloaded, in the trunk of the car, with ammo in a separate container. Does carrying the pistol (unloaded) and the ammo together in a range bag comply with the letter of the law in PA for transporting to a range?
And:
Since the bag is brand new, how best can I avoid looking like the Neo-maxi-zoon-dweebie novice shooter (that I am, BTW), when I walk into the range? Kick it around a bit first? Add a few well worn rags, cleaning supplies?
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December 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM #2
Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
“Loaded.” A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the non-detachable magazine, or in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder, contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm.
(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to
or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of
assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
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(8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. Section6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer’s place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S Section 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. Section 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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December 26th, 2009, 12:37 AM #3
Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Got it. Thanks very much.
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December 26th, 2009, 08:34 PM #4
Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Well, I've been shooting for a good many years now and if a nice looking, clean range bag, carrying case, etc., etc. makes you look like a dweeb, then I guess I'm a dweeb. I take pride in the condition of my equipment. I take care of it, it will last longer. It's one thing if it gets some wear from going to camp, shipping it on an airplane, etc., but that is normal wear and tear. It is going to happen over time. I have some very nice guns and they get transported in pretty nice looking cases. It's not the equipment you are carrying that makes you a "Neo-maxi-zoon-dweebie novice shooter", it is how you carry yourself and how you perform at the range. If you practice safety at the range, follow range rules to the letter, ask questions if you don't know, then that will raise you above the average novice shooter. Most shooters with more experience than you will always try to help if you ask, they want to see people who act safely on the range. They may even ask to see what you're shooting, especially if it is the whiz-bang newest generation uberloudenboomer.
Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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December 26th, 2009, 08:39 PM #5Grand Member
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Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Well, pushed 60 too hard so now I am the big SIX-OH. Now I can be a real pain in the ass! And, who says growin' old isn't fun!!
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December 27th, 2009, 11:43 AM #6
Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Agreed. One of my favorite old movies growing up was calling Angus and starred George C. Scott as the main character's grandfather. He said,
"Screw 'em Angus, who cares what anybody else thinks."
Indeed.
Enjoy that new range bag, I just use a old beat up shoulder bag when I go to the range. And get your LTCF!
~ Derek
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December 27th, 2009, 12:23 PM #7Grand Member
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Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Keep in mind that sooner or later even the verterans have to spring and buy a new range bag!
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December 27th, 2009, 12:31 PM #8
Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Heh. I use tool boxes similar to this...
They protect my gear, keep things dry, and are easily wiped clean if I need to set them down in dirt/mud.
Tip(s): If purchasing plastic tool boxes for this purpose, be sure it has a strong hinge/latch to support the weight of ammo and such. Also, look for one with a flat top. It makes storage easy if you can stack one on top of another.
Do what works for you and don't sweat it over the noob image. The way you handle your firearm says a lot more about your "noobness" than what sort of range bag you walk in with.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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December 27th, 2009, 12:57 PM #9
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December 27th, 2009, 01:08 PM #10Grand Member
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Re: Got a Bagmaster Range Bag: How to Comply w/Law & Not Look Dweebie
Well, pushed 60 too hard so now I am the big SIX-OH. Now I can be a real pain in the ass! And, who says growin' old isn't fun!!
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