OC conduct

[JadrumThirty]

I am an manager for a large retail company and encountered my first individual who was OC. I fully support a citizens right to carry a firearm, as this person entered I took notice of his firearm and said hello. The customer asked for a particular product and me and another associate engaged him in some small talk. At this point I am the only one on staff that has noticed he is armed, but I still didn't say anything.

As I am ringing him out I started a conversation that went like this:

me: "If I may ask what are you carrying there?"
him: "A .45"
me: "Cool what model"
him: "A Firestorm"
me: "Oh yeah a bersa, I handled one in 9mm. I like the 9mm better myself"
him: "Bah the 9 doesn't have the the punch of a .45"

Now after the little back and forth ended something happened that put me into full WTF mode. As we finish our conversation he proceeds to remove his pistol from his shoulder holster and full view of everyone and removes the magazine. I'm thinking he is going to hand it to me to look at, but I was stammering out loud saying "hey, hey" shocked that he would handle his weapon in full view of everyone while no threat existed to do so. Now if we had been on my property, his, or a range I would have no problem, but not in a store.

At that point he gets a little miffed and says."Im just removing the magazine." He removed the magazine, reholstered his pistol, and put the magazine in a magazine holder. After that I walked to the rear of the store where I could watch him until he left.

Now my questions are these:
Was I wrong to ask any questions about his firearm?
Was he wrong to remove his weapon from it holster for no reason where no threat to his safety existed?

I assumed that a responsible OCer would not draw their weapon unless the situation demanded it. Or am i overreacting?

[Pa. Patriot]

Don't even get me started. Removing a firearm from the holster in that environment is unacceptable.

Please tell me this is a hypothetical Q... :wincing:

[PisnNapalm]

Now my questions are these:
Was I wrong to ask any questions about his firearm?
Was he wrong to remove his weapon from it holster for no reason where no threat to his safety existed?

I assumed that a responsible OCer would not draw their weapon unless the situation demanded it. Or am i overreacting?

You're not wrong to ask questions about his firearm. He can choose to answer or not.

YES!! He was wrong to unholster his weapon. Absolutely. That is not something a responsible person would do.

My guess is that he was trying to feel all important. "Hey look at me! I have a gun!" Yada yada blah blah....

That kind of crap is what leads to negligent discharges and people getting hurt or killed.

You did not over react.

[gnbrotz]

Now my questions are these:
Was I wrong to ask any questions about his firearm?
Was he wrong to remove his weapon from it holster for no reason where no threat to his safety existed?

I assumed that a responsible OCer would not draw their weapon unless the situation demanded it. Or am i overreacting?

No.
Hell yes.
Correct. You are not overreacting at all. This type of behavior is completely unacceptable, regardless of whether the gun was OC or CC.

[Pro2A]

Not only is it bad form to remove your firearm, it could potentially be dangerous too. I'd prolly tell him to keep it holstered. Someone may call the cops thinking he's pulling his gun to rob the place or something.

I NEVER unholster my firearm to show someone unless of course I'm at home or at the range etc...

[smithwessn]

You did absolutely nothing wrong. Any member here would gladly chat with someone about their carry piece if asked about it. He was WAY out of line. I would be surprised if he was a member here. If he is, I doubt he would come forward.

A person should never unholster a firearm in public for any reason unless they are in a self defense situation. This makes no sense. Why the hell would a person unholster a firearm, remove the mag and reholster the firearm in the middle of a store??!!!??

[JadrumThirty]

Don't even get me started. Removing a firearm from the holster in that environment is unacceptable.

Please tell me this is a hypothetical Q... :wincing:

I wish it was. I was shocked. It did help me explain to a few I worked with that PA is an open carry state and it legal, but what that guy did was highly irresponsible and dangerous and violated every firearm safety rule I have learned over the past year since I purchased my first firearm and got my LTCF.

To me he treated his weapon more like an expensive cell phone and used it to show off.

[cgbudde]

You did the right thing. It is people like this customer that makes it bad for all of us.

[baker]

Dumb move on his part x2. Did he actually reholster without a mag in the gun? If so I would assume that he doesn't have the mental capacity to be carrying.

You did nothing wrong be asking he on the other hand did not exhibit good or safe handling at all.

[cigarmanpa]

the real question is does he carry +1