This man ought to own Phoenix...Or Cover up

[MOUNTAINORACLE]

I have been following this case and will not make any statements about LEO's as if I did I would be called a cop basher.

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Family Says 911 Tape Caught Cops Planning Cover-Up After Shooting
By JAMIE ROSS
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PHOENIX (CN) - A homeowner says a Phoenix police officer shot him six times in the back during a 911 home-invasion call, and the 911 tape recorded the officer's partner saying, "That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?" The family says the officers were not aware that the 911 call was still recording as they spoke about covering up the shooting.
In their complaint in Maricopa County Court, Anthony and Lesley Arambula say an armed intruder "crashed through the front window" of their home on Sept. 17, 2008 and ran into one of their son's bedrooms.
Anthony, worried about his son who was still in his bedroom, says he "held the intruder calmly at gunpoint" and called 911.
Phoenix Police officers already in the neighborhood heard the crash of the Arambulas' window. When they approached the house, Lesley says, she told Sgt. Sean Coutts that her husband was inside holding the intruder at gunpoint. Lesley says Coutts failed to pass on that information to the two other officers.
Inside the house, the Arambulas say, Officer Brian Lilly shot Anthony six times in the back while he was still on the phone with the 911 operator - twice when he was on the ground.
The officers ran into the bedroom after Anthony told them, "You just killed ... you just killed the homeowner. The bad guy is in there."
The complaint states that Officer Lilly "admitted that it was only after Tony was laying, bullet-ridden, on the ground that he assessed the situation. The 911 tape continued to record what happened even after Officer Lilly unloaded his weapon into Tony, including Officer Lilly's post-shooting, one-word 'assessment': 'Fuck.'
"Tony believed he was going to die; the 911 tape records his plaintive goodbye to his family: '... I love you ... I love you.' Then Tony made what he believed was a dying request to the officers; he did not want his young family to see him shot and bloodied. Officers callously ignored his request and painfully dragged Tony by his injured leg, through the home and out to his backyard patio, where they left him bloodied and shot right in front of Lesley, Matthew and Zachary."
The Arambulas say the officers later dragged Anthony onto gravel, then put him on top of the hot hood of a squad car, and "drove the squad car down the street with Tony lying on top, writing in pain."
According to the complaint, Lilly can be heard on the 911 tape telling Coutts, "We fucked up."
Lilly says on the tape that he did not know where Anthony's gun was when he shot him and that he "opened fire because he heard loud noises and saw someone who looked like he might be the 'Hispanic' male they were pursuing" before getting to the Arambulas' house, according to the complaint.
The complaint states: "Sgt. Coutts knew that officers has just shot up and likely killed an innocent homeowner and the husband of Lesley, with whom he had spoken before entering the home, instead of the armed intruder. Sgt. Coutts was quick to commence the cover-up of their terrible mistake. Sgt. Coutts asked Office Lilly where Tony's gun was at the time Officer Lilly had opened fire on Tony. Officer Lilly admitted that he did not know where Tony's gun was: 'I don't know. I heard screaming and I fired.'"
Lilly later told a police internal affairs investigator that Anthony had pointed his gun in his direction, "in the 'ready' position," the complaint states. But Anthony Arambula says he was facing away from the officers, who could not have even seen his gun.
The complaint continues: "Still not knowing that he is being recorded n the 911 tape, Sgt. Coutts interrupted Officer Lilly's admission and apology with his assurance that the cover-up would commence: 'That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?'"
After the shooting, the Arambulas say, the Phoenix Police Department treated them "like suspects in a drug bust," denying Lesley, Michael and Zachary information about Anthony's condition and denying friends and family members access to him at the hospital.
Anthony Arambula survived, but continues to suffer pain, which he expects will last for the rest of his life.
The City of Phoenix and Officer Dzenan Ahmetovic also are named as defendants.
The Arambulas seek punitive damages for gross negligence, civil rights violations, failure to supervise, excessive force, deliberate indifference to medical needs, false arrest, and emotional distress. They are represented by Michael Manning with son Morrison Hecker.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/0...r_Shooting.htm

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Panel clears policeman in accidental shooting

Sept. 26, 2009
The Arizona Republic

Homeowner hurt in hunt for intruder files suit

A Phoenix police officer who mistakenly shot an armed homeowner during a search for an intruder was cleared of wrongdoing this week by a committee that reviews such shootings.

The ruling by the Phoenix Use of Force Board determined Officer Brian Lilly acted within police policy in the incident, in which he fired six shots at the homeowner amid the confusion of a home invasion last September.

The shooting hospitalized homeowner Tony Arambula, who earlier this year sought a $5.75 million settlement in the case.

Lilly and Phoenix Sgt. Sean Coutts were named in a lawsuit filed last week in Maricopa County Superior Court.

Arambula, 36, was armed and holding a suspect at bay when he suffered gunshot wounds to his back and arm, according to the complaint.

Arambula claimed Lilly shot him twice as he lay bleeding on the floor of his living room, his wife and two young sons nearby.

The suspect, Angel Anastacio Canales, had broken into Arambula's home near 32nd Street and Thomas Road as officers tracked him from a "shots-fired" call in the area.

Arambula had the gunman cornered in his 12-year-old son's room when the officer opened fire.

"This is the type of thing that so severely demeans the credibility of these (police) review boards," said Michael Manning, the attorney representing Arambula.

"Physically, it would have been impossible for (Lilly) to see Tony's face or the gun," he said. "They admit on the 911 call that they didn't warn him."

Officer Jerry Gannon, Lilly's representative from the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association, said it took less than one minute from when officers entered the home searching for a Hispanic male suspect to the when Lilly reacted to seeing Arambula holding a gun.

Gannon and other members of the organization's board said the shooting was difficult to avoid, considering the fluidity of the emergency scene.

"If Brian would have known there was a homeowner in there, he probably would have hesitated," Gannon said, "but if he had hesitated, and it was the (suspect), the outcome could have been tragic."

Phoenix Public Safety Manager Jack Harris will review the Use of Force Board's ruling and make an official determination on Lilly's shooting.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...mbula0926.html
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I lied I will make three statements:
1. The home owner (after this case is over) should own Phoenix.
2. The Phoenix LEO should spend more range time (homeowner was hit with six shots IN THE BACK and lived)
3. I take the statement made by Gannon, "but if he had hesitated, and it was the (suspect), the outcome could have been tragic," to mean the cops
only think the outcome is tragic when one of their own is hurt

oracle

[whoshisface]

repost different article I think

I don't recall the first one having the section about how if it was a suspect instead of the homeowner that the outcome would have been tragic! WTF! Wasn't the outcome tragic?


I guess it isn't tragic when a homeowner gets shot and dragged through gravel. only when a Cop gets shot?

[40twist]

repost different article I think

I don't recall the first one having the section about how if it was a suspect instead of the homeowner that the outcome would have been tragic! WTF! Wasn't the outcome tragic?


I guess it isn't tragic when a homeowner gets shot and dragged through gravel. only when a Cop gets shot?

That is EXACTLY what I thought when I read that line.... made it seem like the homeowner getting shot was " just a bad mistake" but if the LEO were the one to get shot , then it would have been tragic.

[Emptymag]

That's disgusting.

After saying "fuck", a real man would have followed up with, "OMG, get an ambulance here right away!"

Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?

The shooting itself was likely a horrible mistake, THIS statement was no mistake. It was criminal.

[nlcrsn]

I dont think we bash you for giving information that tells the story. What we need is to evaluate every story for intelligence. We all know there are two sides to every story, we just ask for intelligent conversation until ALL facts we can learn have been learned. There are evil, wrong individuals in all walks of life. Yes LEO's should be held to a higher standard. In the end we are human and we err. There hopefully will be justice.

[TaePo]

The thing is, the constitution provides protections for everyone, criminals, homeowners and LEO.

Why cover up?

Just STFU. Let the state do their investigation and charge what they charge and go to court on the findings. Make your statements then, if then.

If your career ends, well, maybe it should end.
If you get a second chance, well, learn from your mistakes.

I can see a super or even a colleague reminding someone to STFU when emotion gets the better of them hot after an incident. But that is all. No "I got your back" nonsense.

[JayBell]

already being discussed here

http://forum.pafoa.org/national-11/7...-shooting.html