Hi from a new member

[shook0002]

Just wanted to stop in and say hi. As long as I've been into guns, and self defense I'm surprised I didn't join sooner. A little background on me, 1st off I'm a Philly cop, and I share many of the same views as most members on here. I'm 100% for the right to carry and defend yourself. My collection includes a Glock 21sf I use on duty, Glock 19, Ruger GP100 .357, S+W .38 Model 60 Chiefs Special (stainless), Keltech P3AT .380, 1911 .45, Bushmaster AR, and a Mossberg 590 MarineCoat.

[fingers80002]

Welcome.

Please, if you can, lend some inside insight about why the PPD is the way it is.

[shook0002]

Welcome.

Please, if you can, lend some inside insight about why the PPD is the way it is.

Sure anything specific?

[GTI19403]

ohh boy don't think he knows what he's in for.

just for the record i've known many great philly cops. what district are you in?

[fingers80002]

Sure anything specific?

First, why they are so anti- OC....

Why go ballistic on a person, who has a holstered pistol on their hip.
They can see it, and if it's not mexican carried, what is the problem?

ETA: this question is from second hand info.
I have never been to Philly proper.

[shook0002]

Most police here aren't even aware of OC. There lies the issue which comes down to training. I've never encountered anyone open-carrying, if its securely in a holster I don't see a problem. I also don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for a permit, since that is a requirement to OC here. Also I've never worked with anyone to my knowledge that encountered somebody OCing, or have even heard third hand of officers encountering somebody OCing. Its rare here based on my experience, and because of that you get P/O's that don't know how to take it. I never knew the laws concering OC until I checked on sites like this.

Second answer, I'm in the 14th

[fingers80002]

Most police here aren't even aware of OC. There lies the issue which comes down to training. I've never encountered anyone open-carrying, if its securely in a holster I don't see a problem. Also I've never worked with anyone to my knowledge that encountered somebody OCing, or have even heard third hand of officers encountering somebody OCing. Its rare here based on my experience, and because of that you get P/O's that don't know how to take it. I never knew the laws concering OC until I checked on sites like this.

Second answer, I'm in the 14th

So PPD, doesn't go through MPOTEC annual training?

[27hand]

Just wanted to stop in and say hi. As long as I've been into guns, and self defense I'm surprised I didn't join sooner. A little background on me, 1st off I'm a Philly cop, and I share many of the same views as most members on here. I'm 100% for the right to carry and defend yourself. My collection includes a Glock 21sf I use on duty, Glock 19, Ruger GP100 .357, S+W .38 Model 60 Chiefs Special (stainless), Keltech P3AT .380, 1911 .45, Bushmaster AR, and a Mossberg 590 MarineCoat.

Hey shook0002,

Welcome to the forum from the other side of the state.

I'll be flying into Philly this week on my way to NH.

I don't get over that way too often.

27hand

[cgbudde]

I also don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for a permit, since that is a requirement to OC here.

First, welcome to the forum. Be glad to have here to help educate both sides.

So now my first question, what reason would you have to ask for a LTCF if the person is OCing. This is a violation of the OCers rights.

I will give you the benefit of not having the MPOTEC training, so please get the training and study the MPOTEC training manuel to know the OCers rights so you do not violate them and end up being sued personally. Just a little friendly advice.

[shook0002]

Its not a violation to ask. It would be a problem If I detained that person based on that alone.