OC on motorcycle

[06PA636]

If riding a street bike, can you OC without a permit? Reading the laws it says "IN a motor vehical" And with you really concealing the handgun with car makes sense. But what about on a streetbike where is will be plainly visable the entire time?

[YBNORMAL]

I ran a quick search, the search function is in the upper center of your PAFOA browser

Carry statute says "in" a vehicle.

Basicly, PA defines a "vehicle" as anything used to transport. Its a gray area because that could include grannys Hoverround.

Get a permit, problem solved.

Im still new to linking stuff together but run a search and you will find the statutes I reference.

[Dannytheman]

If riding a street bike, can you OC without a permit? Reading the laws it says "IN a motor vehical" And with you really concealing the handgun with car makes sense. But what about on a streetbike where is will be plainly visable the entire time?

http://forum.pafoa.org/open-carry-14...torcycles.html

The search function is your friend! IN Versus ON a motor vehicle has been contested! I wouldn't trust the written word against the common sense of a judge. Plus, with a LTCF, you are free to save the legal fees you would most certainly pay out!!

[anonymouse]

A license from ANY state would cover you on a motorcycle, correct?

[knight0334]

A license from ANY state would cover you on a motorcycle, correct?

Yes, its a vehicle.

[Steve_NEPhila]

To the above: Only if it is honored by PA (or whatever state you are in)

[donm]

A license from ANY state would cover you on a motorcycle, correct?

A license/permit from any state that has reciprocity with the state you're in.

If out of PA, check their laws VERY carefully.

Aside from that, I'd say that OC on a bike probably isn't the best idea I've heard lately . . . seems likely to attract the wrong kind of attention (not just LEOs).

[mrpaiste]

Common sense would suggest the issue is one of concealment. For the most part, your gun is concealed from others when IN a motor vehicle. There is no concealment issue if you are carrying openly on a motorcycle. Now, if you have a touring bike and want to put your gun in the tour pack or saddle bags, then it's concealed and covered by the statute.

However, like Danny pointed out, I wouldn't bank on a judge applying common sense. You're covered if you just get an LTCF.

Oh, and IANAL

[anonymouse]

To the above: Only if it is honored by PA (or whatever state you are in)

I disagree. §6106 (b) (11):

(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle which, person possesses a valid and
lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States
or any other state.

[Swarner793]

To the above: Only if it is honored by PA (or whatever state you are in)

A license/permit from any state that has reciprocity with the state you're in.

These two statements are not accurate. This is not a reciprocity issue. It does NOT have to be a state that PA has entered into a reciprocity agreement with, not when it comes to having a firearm in a vehicle. The following exception is found in 6106:

(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

I agree if you leave PA, you must comply with reciprocity agreements, but ANY permit/license from ANY of the other 49 States will work while in PA.

Be safe (and ride free or die).

Scott

Edit: Dang Mouse, you are quick!