LTCF in Casino

[bert]

Casinos in PA have regulations posted that firearms and other lethal weapons are not allowed on the premises. Does that over rule my LTCF and will I just be asked to leave or do I face legal action if caught with a concealed firearm. Actually I'm breaking the regulation by just carrying my everyday pocket knife. It's not only PA Casinos that have this reg.

[Steve in PA]

Casinos in PA have regulations posted that firearms and other lethal weapons are not allowed on the premises. Does that over rule my LTCF and will I just be asked to leave or do I face legal action if caught with a concealed firearm. Actually I'm breaking the regulation by just carrying my everyday pocket knife. It's not only PA Casinos that have this reg.

You will be asked to leave.

It is against their policy to carry in the casinos, it is NOT against the law.

However, you must repect their decision to ask you to leave and secure your firearm in your vehicle........or choose not to come back at all.

[rovert97]

it is a regulation of the Gaming Control Board to not allow firearms into a casino. the only ones that they want to carry are the state police officers assigned to the casino, and on duty LEO's that have a reason to be there.

remember its a regulation, not a law. you while technically you can CC at a casino, if you are spotted by printing badly or whatever, you will be asked to put it in your car, or leave, and if you refuse, you can and more then likely be arrested for criminal trespass and something else that would go along with the regulations.

[V-MAN]

I agree with what has been stated already ... their business, their rules. Two things, they may ask you to leave (and you have to or be subject to arrest for tresspassing) or asked to secure weapon in your vehicle in order to stay on their property. With that being said I have carried at the Rivers and also Wheeling Island and never had any problems at either. If your CCing and doing proper then nobody should know you have a weapon anyway ...

[tl_3237]

Possession of a firearm in a casino without written approval of the Gaming Board is a violation of Pa. Code -

058 Pa Code § 465a.13. Possession of weapons within a licensed facility.
(a) Individuals, including security department personnel, are prohibited from possessing any deadly weapon as defined in 18 Pa.C.S. § 2301 (relating to definitions), stun gun or other device designed to injure or incapacitate a person within a licensed facility without the express written approval of the Board.
(b) The prohibition in subsection (a) does not apply to:
(1) Pennsylvania State Police assigned to its Gaming Enforcement Office.
(2) An on-duty officer or agent of any local, State or Federal law enforcement agency when the officer or agent is acting in an official capacity.
(c) To obtain approval for the possession of a deadly weapon, stun gun or other device designed to injure or incapacitate a person within a licensed facility, an individual shall be required to submit a written request to the Board which includes:
(1) An explanation of the compelling need for the possession of the deadly weapon, stun gun or device designed to injure or incapacitate a person within the licensed facility.
(2) If the request is for possession of a firearm as defined in 18 Pa.C.S. § 6105 (relating to persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms), proof that the individual holds a valid license to possess the firearm.
(d) A slot machine licensee shall post in a conspicuous location at each entrance to the licensed facility signs that may be easily read stating the following:
The possession of a deadly weapon, stun gun or other device designed to injure or incapacitate a person by any person within this licensed facility without the express written permission of the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board is prohibited.

You could try to get approval under (c), may turn out to be an exercise in futility.



If found in possession without approval, you are supposed to be guaranteed a meeting with the PSP:

058 Pa Code§ 465a.11. Slot machine licensee’s organization.
(b)(5) A security department supervised by a person located at the licensed facility who functions, for regulatory purposes, as the director of security. The director of the security department shall be licensed as a key employee and be responsible for the overall security of the licensed facility including the following:

(ix) The provision of immediate notice to the Pennsylvania State Police upon detecting the presence in the licensed facility of a person possessing a weapon in violation of § 465a.13 (relating to possession of weapons within a licensed facility).

[Steve in PA]

If found carrying, the person who found you carryung will notify PSP, and you will asked to leave the casino. That is the extent of your "meeting" with PSP.

Do a search on casino carry and you will see the entire text of the document sent out by PSP to all police departments in reference to carrying in casinos.

I have a hard copy around here somewhere, but will have to look for it.

[mdmartin]

If well concealed and no one knows, no harm no foul. Or if they did notice someone carrying, they would probably ask them to leave. but what would the police do if someone who was carrying was in a situation that they had to use their firearm? Would they charge that person will illegally carrying it?

[mjf]

If well concealed and no one knows, no harm no foul. Or if they did notice someone carrying, they would probably ask them to leave. but what would the police do if someone who was carrying was in a situation that they had to use their firearm? Would they charge that person will illegally carrying it?

There's no crime to charge them with...

[mdmartin]

058 Pa Code § 465a.13. Possession of weapons within a licensed facility.
(a) Individuals, including security department personnel, are prohibited from possessing any deadly weapon as defined in 18 Pa.C.S. § 2301 (relating to definitions), stun gun or other device designed to injure or incapacitate a person within a licensed facility without the express written approval of the Board.

then does this carry any weight at all?

[mjf]

then does this carry any weight at all?

Find the penalty for it that makes it a crime.