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Thread: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
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August 30th, 2009, 08:29 PM #1Banned
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FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
1st, I am an NJ resident, not a PA resident!!
I know FTF sales of handguns is illegal in NJ. The buyer of my SP101 says he is a "pink card employee" of an NJ FFL holder.
Is there a legal way to do a FTF transaction with him or am I to ship it to his shop as usual?
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August 30th, 2009, 08:34 PM #2Super Member
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Re: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
If it's crossing state lines (i.e. going from PA to NJ) it must go to an FFL. Meaning (as far as I know) the address listed on the Federal Firearms License.
If it's in state, then maybe there's a way around it but I know I wouldn't mess around in NJ. It'll cost you the same to ship either way, so I'd advise you to play it safe.
I don't know what a pink-card employee is, but as far as I know if the law requires it to go to an FFL, that means the address listed on the Federal Firearms License.
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August 30th, 2009, 08:48 PM #3Banned
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August 31st, 2009, 04:42 AM #4
Re: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
I have no idea about NJ.
But it sounds like he may be trying to do something he's not supposed to do.
If it sounds suspicious to you, I'd just ship it to the shop and avoid the FTF deal.
Unless you can have the actual FFL holder of the shop do an in-person transfer for you.
Just my .02Last edited by HiredGoon; August 31st, 2009 at 04:46 AM.
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August 31st, 2009, 04:45 AM #5
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Oooops, double post... sorry.
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August 31st, 2009, 01:15 PM #6Active Member
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Re: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
A FTF Handgun sale in NJ (between two NJ residents) is not illegal. As long as the buyer has a Pistol Permit, you can complete the sale, you filling in the permit as the seller and forwarding the copies as indicated on the permit to the NJSP, the issuing PD, a copy for you (seller), and one to the buyer. The buyer working for an FFL has no effect on the sale unless he is trying to claim he doesn't need a permit. If he is claiming that, avoid the guy because he does, unless he is the actual FFL holder and is putting the gun into his inventory.
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August 31st, 2009, 11:53 PM #7
Re: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
ANY sale of a firearm between residents of 2 different states requires the use of a FFL on the buyers end if a pistol, or either end, if a title 1 rifle(as long as buyers state allows it)... anything else is a Federal felony.
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September 1st, 2009, 12:58 AM #8
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September 1st, 2009, 01:40 AM #9
Re: FTF deal w/NJ FFL employee?
then consult NJ law. since FOIDs and police permission slips are involved from what i gather, do whatever NJ law says.
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September 1st, 2009, 11:03 AM #10
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