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    Default Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    I want something heavy that I can legally carry if I wanted to. Im considering a colt 6921 with a 14.5 inch barrel, Serbu shorty AOW shotgun, or other similar item. I want something that is more fire power than a handgun yet legal to carry. I have a Bushmaster carbon 15 pistol but would like to upgrade. I am also considering the sig 556 swat pistol.

    I dont know i want to buy something that is less effective than a glock 21.
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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Try a Kel-Tec PLR-16
    5.56 cal.... uses AR mags.....AND
    It is legally a pistol!
    Ergo, legal to carry!!! (if a bit cumbersome!)

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    SBRs, SBSs, and many AOWs can be carried under LTCF concealed or loaded in a car because they have short barrels and/or short overall length. That being said, don't expect LEO to react the same way as if you had a pistol on your hip.

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Does it matter how they are transfered such as what form, full class 3 or AOW? The colt 6921 is a full size M4 but it has a 14.5 inch barrel. I think that would be my best bet, if I can legally carry it?

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    the PA Definition of "Firearm" thats considered LTCF qualified is:
    pistol or revolver with a 15" or less barrel
    shotgun with a barrel of less than 18"
    rifle with a barrel of less than 16"

    a Serbu Shorty is an AOW due to being a smoothbore pistol, so that CAN be carried under the LTCF also.

    that being said, its probably not teh WISEST move to do so, however, its LEGAL to do so.

    tho i have carried my SSS now and then, I have had no interaction with LEO while doing so, and in my Lawyers opinion, its probably not wise unless absolutely necessary.
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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState View Post
    Does it matter how they are transfered such as what form, full class 3 or AOW? The colt 6921 is a full size M4 but it has a 14.5 inch barrel. I think that would be my best bet, if I can legally carry it?
    You cannot Carry a 14.5" barreled AR-15 legally (This is assuming it has a Pinned Flash hider making the total barrel length 16").
    You can carry a Serbu Super shorty AOW, short Barrel shotguns, and short barreled rifle.
    All of these options require a Class 3 Dealer and a Tax Stamp. The serbu is a $5 stamp the rest are $200.
    If you do not want to get involved in Class 3 Items then your best bet is without a doubt the Sig 556 Pistol. They are reallly well made. You can buy one today and as long as you have a valid carry permit and the gun measures under 26" (which it does) you can carry it tonight.
    The current wait for a class 3 item is about 4 months, but then you can have a stock.
    PLEASE BE AWARE if you get something like the sig 556 pistol you CAN NOT put a vertical foregrip, or a stock on. If you do......welll.....Bubba will be a very good friend

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Im refering to the colt 6921 which has a 14.5 barrel and no extension to make it 16 inches. It is a full size M4 with the 14.5 barrel and is transfered as a class 3. Can all AOW's and class 3's be carried or only certain ones? I find it hard to believe I can carry a 14.5 inch M4 and not the 16inch regular model?

    http://www.colt.com/mil/downloads/M4_Specs.pdf

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Quote Originally Posted by mioduz View Post
    You cannot Carry a 14.5" barreled AR-15 legally (This is assuming it has a Pinned Flash hider making the total barrel length 16").
    You can carry rifles and shotguns loaded and even conceal them. You just can't carry a rifle or shotgun loaded in a car. Unless the barrel or overall length is is short, then you are covered with LTCF just like a pistol. Which, by happy conincidence, means NFA weapons (except anything with a non-NFA length barrel or normal overall length).

    Good catch on the pinned flash hider making a 16" "barrel."

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState View Post
    Im refering to the colt 6921 which has a 14.5 barrel and no extension to make it 16 inches. It is a full size M4 with the 14.5 barrel and is transfered as a class 3.
    You can carry it.

    Can all AOW's and class 3's be carried or only certain ones?
    You been answered twice and still ask the same question. To be loaded in a car you need a LTCF and barrel or overall length below a certain measure.

    I find it hard to believe I can carry a 14.5 inch M4 and not the 16inch regular model?
    To have it loaded in a car you need the NFA model and a LTCF.

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    Default Re: Can you carry AOW and class 3 on a LTCF?

    So vehicle carry is where it is not lawful to have a regular rifle or shot gun? What exactly does a LTCF cover for vehicle carry?

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