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August 8th, 2009, 08:00 AM #1
'Cloud ship' scheme to deflect the sun's rays is favourite to cut global warming ...
These scientists (sic) must be using the Timothy Leary method of mind expansion...sheeesh
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...l-warming.html
Ships with giant funnels which travel the world's seas creating more clouds to deflect the sun's rays could help cut global warming, say scientists.
Published: 7:58AM BST 07 Aug 2009
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'Cloud ship' scheme to deflect the sun's rays is favourite to cut global warming
The unmanned ships would be directed by satellite to areas with the best conditions for increasing cloud cover
The "cloud ships" are favoured among a series of schemes aimed at altering the climate which have been weighed up by a leading think-tank.
The project, which is being worked on by rival US and UK scientists, would see 1,900 wind-powered ships ply the oceans sucking up seawater and spraying minuscule droplets of it out through tall funnels to create large white clouds.
These clouds, it is predicted, would reflect around one or two per cent of the sunlight that would otherwise warm the ocean, thereby cancelling out the greenhouse effect caused by Carbon Dioxide emissions.
The unmanned ships would be directed by satellite to areas with the best conditions for increasing cloud cover, mainly in the Pacific and far enough away from land so as not to affect normal rainfall patterns.
Other ideas, such as sending mirrors into space by rocket to deflect the sun's rays, and scattering iron powder into the seas to boost CO2-absorbing plankton, have been dismissed as unfeasible or too expensive.
According to The Times, The Royal Society is expected to announce that the decade-old cloud ship plan is one of the most promising.
The Copenhagen Consensus Centre, which advises governments on how to spend aid money, examined the various plans and found the cloud ships to be the most cost-effective.
They would cost $9 billion (£5.3 billion) to test and launch within 25 years, compared to the $250 billion that the world’s leading nations are considering spending each year to cut CO2 emissions, and the $395 trillion it would cost to launch mirrors into space.
At present, British and American teams are seeking funding to launch sea trials. The US team has been boosted by a donation of several hundred thousand dollars by The Carnegie Institute, while the British team, led by John Latham, an atmospheric physicist at the University of Manchester, and Stephen Salter, an engineer at the University of Edinburgh, is working with a Finnish shipping company, Meriaura.
Bjorn Lomborg, director of the Copenhagen think-tank, is hosting a conference in Washington DC next month at which a panel of Nobel laureates will vote on the most cost-effective solution.
He believes the schemes could prove that there are better ways of addressing climate change than simply reducing CO2 emissions.
“The space sunshade is really just science fiction but cloud whitening ships deserve serious scrutiny,” he told The Times.
“We need to have a debate about all of the options, not just the politically correct one of reducing CO2."
Another scheme considered by the Copenhagen Consensus Centre is one to mimic the effects of volcanic eruptions in shielding the sun's rays with a chemical haze and creating a global cooling effect that can last for over a year.
The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991 sent billions of tonnes of sulphur dioxide and other particles into the atmosphere which reduced global average temperature by about 0.5C. The eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia in 1815 saw 1816 become known as the year without summer.
Scientists have proposed various ways of emitting such particles into the atmosphere, including using squadrons of air tanker potentially based in the Arctic to protect the polar ice cap.
However, the scheme would cost $230 billion and could not be reversed, unlike the cloud ships scheme.
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August 8th, 2009, 08:07 AM #2
Re: 'Cloud ship' scheme to deflect the sun's rays is favourite to cut global warming
Um what? Haven't these asshats learned to stop f'ing with Mother nature. Oh yeah, let's block out the sun to cool things down. F'ing unreal.
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August 8th, 2009, 08:14 AM #3Banned
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August 8th, 2009, 08:16 AM #4
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Global warming? Yesterday morning I was leaving for work and I got a chill. IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST!!!!
Global warming is total BS!!!
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August 8th, 2009, 08:33 AM #5
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The day my tax dollars pay for a fucking ship to produce clouds to block the sun is the day I say up yours, and stop paying any type of taxes whatsoever. The way things are going, something is bound to happen before that and i'll stop paying anyway.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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August 8th, 2009, 08:42 AM #6
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That in fact is the one and only way we are going to stop this whole runaway government tax and tax and spend and spend trainwreck.
The whole reason they instituted witholding taxes from paychecks was pure and simply a method of control. If everyone had to write a tax check on April 15th every year, the government would have a whole new line of respect for our money and our Constitution.
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August 8th, 2009, 09:11 AM #7
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Oh, yeah, let's cut down on the amount of sunlight reaching us. Vitamin D and strong bones are vastly over rated these days.
The real answer is 42.
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August 8th, 2009, 09:26 AM #8
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Wouldn't the "smog" from our evil, gas guzzling V-8s have the desired effect as well?
I'm gonna go start my truck and let it idle for a while. You know... to save the planet.
Oh, and this "weather altering" bullshit reminds me of the "plan" I heard being discussed on the Weather Channel.(gag. should be called the Brainwashing "Green" Channel)
They want to run ships back and forth in the Gulf of Mexico to create a "wake" that would break up incoming hurricanes to less powerful storms.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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August 8th, 2009, 09:38 AM #9Active Member
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Re: 'Cloud ship' scheme to deflect the sun's rays is favourite to cut global warming
people are morons. this sounds like some half-assed bond villain move.
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August 8th, 2009, 09:41 AM #10
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Dude, what the hell are you thinking? You need to trade that thing in on a Yaris or a Prius under the "cash for clunkers" program.
You, sir, are NOT a model citizen of the New Society.
Yeah, but his sounds much cooler than sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads.Last edited by Halftrack; August 8th, 2009 at 09:43 AM.
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