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July 2nd, 2009, 06:23 PM #41
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
The U.S is the most charitable nation in the world. PERIOD! For the record its not even close...
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July 2nd, 2009, 06:33 PM #42
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July 2nd, 2009, 06:47 PM #43
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July 2nd, 2009, 09:40 PM #44
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
I never said that all Americans were biased against foreign products. Only a small minority of Americans have that bias. I brought this topic up since some people were telling me to avoid foreign made handguns since that would send jobs overseas. I was not planning on starting a political debate. However, one poster started talking about how America is the greatest. Each nation has its pros and cons. If you look at it solely from a military perspective, America is one of the greatest nations since its geography and resources make it a formidable military power. If you look at it from other angles, America isn't the greatest.
The main reason why I'm not leaving is that I'm not the only one who feels this way. Many other people also feel that there are problems with America and that's how Obama got elected. I don't agree with everything that Obama supports (abortion, gay marriage, increased secularism, stem cell research, etc). But I certainly agree with him about progressive taxation.
I mean "you people" as in all of you who oppose helping the poor and disadvantaged of American society. If you were charitable, then you would not be hostile to progressive taxation that would be used to help less fortunate individuals.
When Christ told people not to judge, he specifically told them not to judge hypocritically. Christ did not imply that his followers should ignore wrongdoing when they see it.
With regards to Cuba it is part socialist and part feudalist (since you have the communist hierarchy that closely resembles the nobility).
With regards to working harder, you underestimate the magnitude of what some people have to go through. The average cost of all the services needed to take care of 1 (one) autistic child is about $5 million (for the lifetime of that child). That is beyond what most people can afford. You asked why the rest of society should care. The rest of society is obligated to help since my brother became autistic after receiving an MMR vaccine. The government mandates MMR vaccines in order to be able to enroll in a public school. That is the reason why. This is not limited to autistic children. Have you ever heard of something called the Orphan Drug Act. Basically, there are some diseases that are so rare that pharmaceutical companies don't even make drugs for them (since there is no economic incentive). The government had to pass a law just to get those companies to make those drugs. What do you think it is like to be one of those people who suffer from an orphan disease.
Also, if you read the Old Testament, you would know that Hebrew law required field owners to leave part of their harvest behind for the poor. By your standards, were the Israelites also marxists since the government forced people to be charitable?
As a matter of fact, I'm in college right now (Bloomsburg) and I'm studying criminal justice.
When I was talking about foreign guns (before the discussion went off topic), I recalled one of the lessons that I learned in my high school AP economics course. The text book explicitly stated that greater economic efficiency is achieve if nations specialize in the production of goods (and trade with each other) instead of having each nation trying to produce everything it needs by itself.
With respect to Obama, college students love him (no joke). Virtually everyone voted for him (with a few students here and there who voted for McCain. I didn't bother voting since I was dissatisfied with both of them (for me, Obama is to secular and McCain is too uncharitable).
I actually know some people who are HARDCORE SOCIALISTS. You people are claiming that I'm a hardcore socialist, when in reality you don't know what socialism is. A true socialist would be advocating for government controlled businesses (not just government regulated businesses), separation of religion and politics (far beyond separation of church and state), stem cell research, easy access to abortions, gay marriage, the suppression of religion, and progressive taxation that is so extreme that businesses cannot function.
I support none of the things that a regular old socialist would support. Yes, I support progressive taxation, but not to the point that businesses fail.
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July 2nd, 2009, 10:46 PM #45
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July 2nd, 2009, 10:51 PM #46
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
Myself, I tend to seek American made products merely to support our own before I support citizens of other countries. Sure, there are plenty of times when a foreign product is superior and I buy it. But I'm willing to pay a bit more for equal products if one is made in America. I do typically check for country of origin when I shop. I do my best to avoid anything Chinese and will forgo something if I don't really need it. I have a particular issue with China as a trade country. We are being flooded with their junk, losing jobs to them and are now indebted for decades to them. The crap we buy from them can just as easily be manufactured here. Now while I have no problems with the people of China I do have one with their government. Maybe I'm old school but I still believe the Communists of the world still have an agenda of world dominance and the current economic imbalance with them is exactly what they planned. For them the fodder of human life is the current ammunition. They have no compunction to enslave workers for the benefit of the state. Hundreds of millions are working for mere survival wages. They will die off and the next generation will take their places. This will be done until the rest of the world is so run down that changes to forms of government is easily manipulated. They're going to win the war without a shot fired. Yeah, maybe I sound paranoid....hell, maybe I am...but I just don't trust them one iota and I think we should remain very vigilant against them. As individuals I feel we should avoid their products as best we can.
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July 2nd, 2009, 11:16 PM #47
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
I have no doubt that although there are a lot of foreign parts on my 2008 F150, the sticker says it was assembled in Dearborn, MI. I didn't buy it for that reason. I bought it because I thought it was the best truck for me. It sure is loaded with options not available from any other manufacturer.
My OC and sometimes CC is a Glock 27. My most CC is a Kel Tek P3AT.Last edited by 1iarrowking; July 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 PM.
The older I get, the better I used to be.
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July 2nd, 2009, 11:35 PM #48
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
Recently, the track record has proven, at least personally, that buying so-called "American" is a poor move. American manufacturing quality is a joke. Just as many of us are familiar with the kool-aid of main stream media, we also tend to "eat up" the nostalgia and rest on the laurels of the years when this country was a manufacturing and industrial mega-source. The US is not that anymore. We are just happy to ignore that. Asia is not ignoring that.
Right on, LRT... Unfortunately, too true...
And also, before we all fully pile onto the poor undergrad college hippie, let's just pause for a moment. (By the way I've never heard of Bloomsburry University, so that's not good. Consider transferring. But, I digress.) Those college students are truly the leaders of tomorrow. Also, I don't feel his initial statement on macroeconomic success trends is that far off base. It surely isn't liberal professor propaganda. Ever heard of a "jack of all trades, master of none?" A successful business knows when to outsource and when to engage projects which fall within that org's core competencies.F*S=k
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July 2nd, 2009, 11:41 PM #49
Re: why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?
The main reason why I'm not leaving is that I'm not the only one who feels this way. Many other people also feel that there are problems with America and that's how Obama got elected. I don't agree with everything that Obama supports (abortion, gay marriage, increased secularism, stem cell research, etc). But I certainly agree with him about progressive taxation.
You had me until this whole group of statements. Abortion is legal and a needed service. look at how many unwanted kids are born to ill equipped parents. As a method of birth control it wouldn't be my choice, but how about if a loved one of yours was raped??
Gay marriage??? who really cares if gay people want to marry? Why shouldn't they have the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else?
Stem cell research??? you have a family member with autisim...you wouldn't be interested in a cure for him?
Progressive taxation??? you mean income leveling??? I've heard a lot of liberals saying that this is a great idea until it comes to them. Look at Hollywood which is i'd guess a liberal majority and should be a huge tax base.
Why then is California on the verge of bankruptcy??
I try and buy american when i can but as the point was made earlier, It next to impossible to but american electronics. I have a German car, A Japanese car and a motorcycle made in Italy. My gun collection is mostly american.
4 rugers,1 colt,1 winchester,1 marlin,1 bushmaster,2 sigs and 1 browning
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July 2nd, 2009, 11:43 PM #50
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