why are some gun owners biased against foreign guns?

[LittleRedToyota]

The Europe that your forefathers left is not the Europe that exists today. It is much easier for people to make ends meet in that nation. I don't think its sad that more people want t imitate the European model. I think its sad that there is so much economic inequality in the U.S. Not everyone had the same opportunities in life.

for the most part, people make their own beds.

who your parents are definitely does make a difference, but there are plenty of people who overcome crappy parents, too.

anyone can make it in america. people who do not generally have no one but themselves to blame. the first thing they need to do is stop making excuses and just go out and do it. in america, anyone can go to school, work hard and get decent grades, borrow money to go to college/trade school (i borrowed ridiculous amounts to do it), get a good degree, and make a decent living for themselves.

it's just that a lot of people don't like this idea because it is a lot of work and involves taking some risk. many people just want everything handed to them now. sorry...they don't deserve crap.

btw, there is no european economy that comes even close to the US economy and without our economy the standard of living in the whole world would be significantly less than what it is.

bush's foreign policy is not relevant to this discussion.

[etep513]

I worked hard for my opportunities. Imagine that, working for what you want.
If you ignore history you're bound to repeat it.

I did the same. However, you ignore the fact that some people don't have access to those opportunities. If a person lives in a large city, that person will likely receive an inferior education (I'm using this as one particular example) and have fewer opportunities in life. And what about people with disabilities? I have a brother who is severely autistic. My family would never be able to afford all of the special education services that he needs on a regular basis (and neither would millions of other hard-working American families).

So the basic concepts of american life makes you sad? America has opportunities for everyone that wants to work hard for it, not to be handed out by the government.

That's the problem with you people. You don't realize that not everyone has access to the same opportunities that you do (or disabilities prevent them from harnessing those opportunities). I used the example of my autistic brother to show you. Plus, many right wingers in America claim to follow Christianity. Why is it that those same people ignore Christ's call to charity?

[wingnut]

You will always have those who snub foreign made products, but truth be told, is there anything that is 100% made,built and or designed in America anymore?

Henry Repeating Arms' President Anthony Imperato has made a campaign of being American made of American raw materials.

/wingnut
// I can give you his email address and phone number if you want more information. Yes, you can talk to him on the phone, and he does reply to email.

[goofin]

That's the problem with you people. You don't realize that not everyone has access to the same opportunities that you do (or disabilities prevent them from harnessing those opportunities). I used the example of my autistic brother to show you. Plus, many right wingers in America claim to follow Christianity. Why is it that those same people ignore Christ's call to charity?

YOU PEOPLE? WTF is that supposed to mean?

[7998]

I did the same. However, you ignore the fact that some people don't have access to those opportunities. If a person lives in a large city, that person will likely receive an inferior education (I'm using this as one particular example) and have fewer opportunities in life. And what about people with disabilities? I have a brother who is severely autistic. My family would never be able to afford all of the special education services that he needs on a regular basis (and neither would millions of other hard-working American families).

Again more bull crap. Example Nj spend more per student in the Trento school district yet it is one of the worst. West-Windsor and princeton and countless others spend less yet are top rated public schools


That's the problem with you people. You don't realize that not everyone has access to the same opportunities that you do (or disabilities prevent them from harnessing those opportunities). I used the example of my autistic brother to show you. Plus, many right wingers in America claim to follow Christianity. Why is it that those same people ignore Christ's call to charity?

Your right not everyone has the same oppotunities. But everyone has the same rights to that education or job or life. The same can't be said about your favored europe.

[etep513]

Your right not everyone has the same oppotunities. But everyone has the same rights to that education or job or life. The same can't be said about your favored europe.

I never said that I favored EVERY aspect of european society. Everyone has the right to get a good education, but not everyone gets it. I was fortunate enough to live in the East Penn School District. The school taxes are very high, but Emmaus High School is one of the best in the state.

[ExTxN]

Oui, oui, Herr Socialist. (fixed that for you, not that it matters)
No thanks, as far and as fast as this country is headed for the shitter there is no other place in the world like it.

I'll take the lack of the goverments intervention (I would like even more).
And nothing about 60% taxes appeals to me.

And another great thing about this country is you sir have the right to sing the praise of a socialist society, while I have the right to tell you to fuck off!

Damn skippy, sir. And might I add, all those of you who are so full of throbbing tinglies to belong to such a socialist society (oxymoron) need only blow up a few dozen truck tubes and float your red ass down to Cuba to enjoy the fruits of that paradise. Why do you feel the need to eff with our country? You'd better not

Take care, and please move on if you have socialist tendencies
Dave

[etep513]

Damn skippy, sir. And might I add, all those of you who are so full of throbbing tinglies to belong to such a socialist society (oxymoron) need only blow up a few dozen truck tubes and float your red ass down to Cuba to enjoy the fruits of that paradise. Why do you feel the need to eff with our country? You'd better not

Take care, and please move on if you have socialist tendencies
Dave

Cuba is communist (totalitarian socialist), not democratic socialist. In practice, Cuba's system is more closely related to feudalism than it is to socialism. Plus, what is wrong with the government helping disabled people?

[JoeWilliams]

The basic dishonesty of the OPs arguments that Americans are somehow biased against foreign guns can be amply illustrated by the popularity of Glock, XD, Sig, Beretta, Bersa, and other foreign firearms. He merely created an argument out of thin air to justify a launch pad for anti-American arguments, with flagrant disregard for the facts. Typical tactic for leftists and Obama worshipers.

I think a more interesting question is why someone with so obvious a hatred for our way of life is still in this nation? Plane tickets are cheap, and there's no wall holding anyone here... exiting is simple. So, if it's so bad, why stay here? Take your family members to Europe where the standard of care is apparently more suitable for them, and the lifestyle one more to your taste... unless, of course, the higher taxes you keep passing off so blithely are a bit much for you? Of course, there's certainly no obligation for those who hate us to leave. Part of our way of life is that we welcome even those who spit on us.

[ExTxN]

That's the problem with you people. You don't realize that not everyone has access to the same opportunities that you do (or disabilities prevent them from harnessing those opportunities). I used the example of my autistic brother to show you. Plus, many right wingers in America claim to follow Christianity. Why is it that those same people ignore Christ's call to charity?

I also can't follow your "you people" characterization. You mean, as in, "You uncharitable, unwashed, uneducated...", or just anyone who doesn't swallow the liberal pap? And how do you know or have any accounting for my charity, and who it goes to? I think you need to calm down a moment.

Nearly every family, every member on these boards, and every neighbor you know has or knows of a special needs person. Does that make you more qualified to judge our charitable nature or lack of it? What about 'judge not...', or do you only selectively apply God's word and directives? I give as a result of my own inclinations and conscience, not at the direction of the federal government or any other agency-except His.

Cuba is communist (totalitarian socialist), not democratic socialist. In practice, Cuba's system is more closely related to feudalism than it is to socialism. Plus, what is wrong with the government helping disabled people? Guilty of identification faux pas as charged, Comrade. But, still, socialist, ?Si?

And, what is wrong with helping your own family, disabled or not, by working a little harder or working a second job? That's tough, I know, but what obligates everyone else to carry your burden? That's done by people who volunteer to, not who are forced to. Are you advocating government force to make me help you?

Let's go back to my earlier suggestion that those who are unhappy with this system, country, society, and it's problems and quirks find themselves a New Utopia to call home. That's what my Moravian ancestors did when they packed all their crap in two trunks and rode behind the engine room for several weeks to get here...you that sick of 'here' yet?



And, we should all apologize for the post hijack. Seems politics set off a fire wherever they go.

Take care
Dave