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    Default Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    I need your input.

    I have a list of possible locations, I plan on holding Session I of my 3-part Workshop series somewhere in the York area, sometime on a Sunday between July 26 - August 9th.

    So, either:

    July 26th

    August 2nd

    August 9th

    Since this is for you folks, are there any dates that would be better/worse than other dates in that range?

    Once I get a sense of a good date, I'll nail down a location and post full details. Price is still $50 paid a week in advance, $75 at the door, discount for groups of 5.


    Workshop descriptions:

    Session 1: Pennsylvania law I (4 hours)
    * Owning, open & concealed carrying, vehicle transport, in and around the home, motor homes, "in" motorcycles, workplaces, and what counts as "between" named exemptions
    * PICS/NICS
    * LTCF's - denials, revocations. Appeals
    * transferring, inheriting, lending, borrowing, pawning, gifting
    * prohibited persons under PA and Federal law, temporary prohibitions; domestic relations & Lautenburg (minors, some aliens, convictions, indictments, dishonorable discharges, mental adjudications)
    * Limited immunity under the PA UFA; waivers and releases as applied to 3rd-parties
    * Allowing prohibited persons access to your guns; living with a prohibited person
    * Getting rights restored; Pardons, restorations, other avenues under PA and Federal laws
    * Storage requirements and advice;
    * Seized guns; forfeiture and return of property proceedings;
    * PA preemption - how it applies, how it doesn't; zoning, discharge restrictions, possession of firearms on municipal property; nuisance, noise, health & safety
    * Federal preemption - the 1986 FOPA requirements
    * PA constitution- Art 1, Sec 21

    Session 2: Pennsylvania law II (4 hours)
    * The use of force, and the use of deadly force.
    * Self-defense, necessity, and justification
    * Aftermath of a good or bad shooting, civil and criminal
    * Duty to retreat, the Castle Doctrine, and "Stand your ground" laws
    * using NFA firearms for self-defense in the home or on the street
    * Other weapons - machine guns, switchblades, stun guns, bombs, lions and tigers and bears, oh my.
    * Paramilitary training - how much fun are you allowed to have?

    Session 3: Federal law (4 hours)
    * The 1934 NFA - common pitfalls, or How To Avoid Committing A Felony
    * The 1968 GCA - the small seller's catch 22
    * ATF
    * Other Federal laws, regs, and restrictions
    * the Assault Weapon Ban, and what could happen in the future
    * The 2nd Amendment after Heller
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    "IN"

    Mr and Mrs Curmudgeon, for any of those dates listed, no preference, they are all good.

    Already looking forward to it.

    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    In for Mr. and Mrs. Greeby as well.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    anything but AUG 9 (pafoa group shoots at pmsc are 2nd Sunday every month) and I will try to make it.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    After attending all three of these in Hellertown a few months back, I can say that youll find these to be VERY worthwhile and a terrific value.

    Dont be misled by the 3rd session title or NFA content... while I didnt "think" this was applicable, I found this to be an extremely valuable and lively session. If you dont know Phil, your in for a real education.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    Quote Originally Posted by /dev/null View Post
    After attending all three of these in Hellertown a few months back, I can say that youll find these to be VERY worthwhile and a terrific value.

    Dont be misled by the 3rd session title or NFA content... while I didnt "think" this was applicable, I found this to be an extremely valuable and lively session. If you dont know Phil, your in for a real education.
    Thanks for the kind words, and I agree that the National Firearms Act applies to a LOT more people than are aware. Some pen guns are felonies, others are fine; same for wallet holsters, AR-15 pistols, "short" shotguns. Why is a pistol-grip shotgun with an overall length of 28" not as "short" as a full-stocked shotgun with a 37" overall length? Which AR pistols are felonies? Why can't you zip-tie a pistol under your rifle? Plus, we talk about $5 transfers, how the NFA helped us during the Assault Weapon Ban, and other fun stuff.
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    Aug 9th is a club action shoot, but I can miss it to attend.
    All other dates are good for me.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    Quote Originally Posted by fingers80002 View Post
    Aug 9th is a club action shoot, but I can miss it to attend.
    All other dates are good for me.
    Since you pre-paid by bidding on the class for the Red Cross charity, I'll rule out the 9th. So we're looking at July 25th or August 2nd.
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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Since you pre-paid by bidding on the class for the Red Cross charity, I'll rule out the 9th. So we're looking at July 25th or August 2nd.
    Don't rule out the 9th on my account.

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    Default Re: Gunlawyer001's next Firearms Law Workshop....

    I'd like to see one around Lebanon somewhere

    I'd be in if I was off
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