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    Default Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    The customs department wants to take away all concealable pocket knives!!!!!!! next all guns, see link
    http://www.kniferights.org/

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    This deals with Assisted Opening knives. It is brought up here before: http://forum.pafoa.org/national-11/6...-o-knives.html

    Be safe (and now, it looks like unassisted).

    Scott

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    If they take away my pop-tarts... Shit will happen!
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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    Does this mean I can expect price gouging and shortages on my preferred knives? Should I stockpile some Spyderco's now?

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    What's the problem, CBP can't make laws. Only congress can.
    " The Seeds of Oppression Will One Day Bear The Fruit of Rebellion."

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tes151 View Post
    What's the problem, CBP can't make laws. Only congress can.
    CBP controls what enters the country. They are now saying that an AO is an automatic knife and thus may not be imported.

    Be safe (and remember, we can not even keep track of all the federales that have an impact on our lives).

    Scott

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tes151 View Post
    What's the problem, CBP can't make laws. Only congress can.
    The problem is that existing laws that are ambiguous on the definition of “switchblade” and previous court cases about the same have relied on the Customs & Border Protection definition. If Customs & Border Protection were to reverse that definition and start including assisted-opening knives as “switchblades” and any one-handed opening knife as an “inertia or gravity knife”, then those ambiguous laws and any future similar court cases now rely on a definition that makes them illegal.

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tes151 View Post
    What's the problem, CBP can't make laws. Only congress can.
    And they aren't making them. What they are doing, however, is changing their mind on what meets certain definitions and saying "All of those rulings that we made that date back 5+ years ago, you know, the ones that you relied on for product design, factory tooling, advertising, marketing and distribution, well forget about it! No grandfathering. What we said was legal to import now is no longer legal to import.

    What I want to know is, how is something that is determined not to be a switchblade suddenly determined to be a switchblade?

    Analogy - Dogs are not cats. Except, effective in 60 days, dogs will now be cats.
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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    And they aren't making them. What they are doing, however, is changing their mind on what meets certain definitions and saying "All of those rulings that we made that date back 5+ years ago, you know, the ones that you relied on for product design, factory tooling, advertising, marketing and distribution, well forget about it! No grandfathering. What we said was legal to import now is no longer legal to import.

    What I want to know is, how is something that is determined not to be a switchblade suddenly determined to be a switchblade?

    Analogy - Dogs are not cats. Except, effective in 60 days, dogs will now be cats.
    I'll bet they say that importing drugs is illegal too. How's that working out?
    " The Seeds of Oppression Will One Day Bear The Fruit of Rebellion."

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    Default Re: Now they want our pocket knives!!!!

    What is this, England? I mean, c'mon, our entire nation's economy is in the tanker and circling fast, and they're wasting time worrying about knives?

    The crappy stainless tin kitchen knives they sell at WalMart are more deadly than a wee little Spyderco or Kershaw. Hell, most 'knife' attacks are committed with $1 industrial box cutters, not $80-$100 assisted opening folders.

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