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    Newspaper ad calls for Obama's assassination

    Friday, May 29, 2009
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    WARREN, Pa. -- A northwestern Pennsylvania newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.

    Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared yesterday in The Warren Times Observer. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated.

    Mr. Elchert said the advertising staff didn't make the historical connection, but the paper removed the ad today and turned information over to police.

    Mr. Elchert says an agent from the Secret Service office in Erie is in town, investigating the person who placed the ad.

    A note in today's paper says, "The Times Observer apologizes for the oversight."

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    Mr. Elchert said the advertising staff didn't make the historical connection, but the paper removed the ad today and turned information over to police.

    Can you say a public education and graduated High School after 1990?

    Yep and we are spending how much each year per student?

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    Don't care WHO said it, newspaper, individual person or some talking head ... even thinking that is beyond horrific.

    You may not like him, that is your 'freedom of choice' BUT talking about, condoning or even mentioning the assassination of a sitting president (or anyone for that fact) is just the lowest thing I can think of. We are a country of PEACEFUL government transactions ... not takeovers, not murder and especially not takeovers via assassinations! The day we (and I mean ANYONE) accepts this kind of hatred as the norm is the day the United States of America is no more, we have become a third world country that doesn't deserve the respect and success we have had for over 200 years.

    Sorry but my memory stretches back to the day JFK was murdered ... it was a horrible day, one that should NEVER be repeated again!

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    I could be wrong, but I don't think this is anything anyone will get in legal trouble over. The Secret Service can investigate but no specific threat was made. I was always under the impression that an actual threat was needed to arrest someone. Yes, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithwessn View Post
    I could be wrong, but I don't think this is anything anyone will get in legal trouble over. The Secret Service can investigate but no specific threat was made. I was always under the impression that an actual threat was needed to arrest someone. Yes, no?
    Hate to tell you this BUT just insinuating an attempt against the president is a good basis for charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dc dalton View Post
    Hate to tell you this BUT just insinuating an attempt against the president is a good basis for charges.
    'Frain not. Legally, that ad will end up being legally protected speech. It was a wish, not a threat, unless the person who placed it is silly enough to actually speak to the SS without an attorney.

    If what you said is true, there would be an awful lot of people in jail over the last 8 years. Plenty of leftists printed and spoke out loud wishes for the death of President Bush.

    Do note, I'm not addressing the content of the note, merely the odds of the person who placed it of ending up in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dc dalton View Post
    Hate to tell you this BUT just insinuating an attempt against the president is a good basis for charges.
    Insinuating an attempt is sort of similar to making an actual attempt. The wording in the paper does not insinuate a person has, or is planning to take any action. I believe a person could express his/her hopes/wishes without insinuating a plan to do so. Again, I could be way off.

    Regardless, as dc posted earlier, this line of thinking is horrible even if you don't like the man. That action wouldn't make anything any better. Would just make everything worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWilliams View Post
    'Frain not. Legally, that ad will end up being legally protected speech. It was a wish, not a threat, unless the person who placed it is silly enough to actually speak to the SS without an attorney.
    That's what I thought, although it's not an issue I would want to be confronted about. It's best to just avoid that situation all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWilliams View Post
    'Frain not. Legally, that ad will end up being legally protected speech. It was a wish, not a threat, unless the person who placed it is silly enough to actually speak to the SS without an attorney.

    If what you said is true, there would be an awful lot of people in jail over the last 8 years. Plenty of leftists printed and spoke out loud wishes for the death of President Bush.

    Do note, I'm not addressing the content of the note, merely the odds of the person who placed it of ending up in jail.
    Well you try out that train of thinking and let me know how it works out!


    And I will say this, don't call me for bail or a visit in jail!

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    Default Re: Pa. newspaper ad calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by smithwessn View Post
    Insinuating an attempt is sort of similar to making an actual attempt. The wording in the paper does not insinuate a person has, or is planning to take any action. I believe a person could express his/her hopes/wishes without insinuating a plan to do so. Again, I could be way off.

    Regardless, as dc posted earlier, this line of thinking is horrible even if you don't like the man. That action wouldn't make anything any better. Would just make everything worse.
    Exactly, wishing someone would die is not even close to the word "attempt." Just like Wanda Sykes wishing Limbaugh would have his kidneys would fail is nothing like saying she would make his kidneys fail.

    You are right that it would make things worst. For Pete's sake... BIDEN???? WTF?
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