Travelling to PA on Business

[wedoada]

I will be in PA (near Allentown) on business next week - I am from a reciprocal State - are there any specific things I'll need to know like prohibited places ? Restaurants serving alcohol ? Do "no firearms" signs in businesses carry the weight of law ? (they don't here at home) If stopped am I required to advise LEO ?

I've looked online and gotten some answers but would feel better hearing it from people who carry.

Thanks

[fingers80002]

Best place to start is here:

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...carry-you.html

[wedoada]

Thanks that was great.

What about businesses that post "no guns" signs? Here in NH the signs carry no weight of law...meaning you are only breaking company policy and not the law....but you can be asked to leave and be arrested for trespass if you refuse.

[fingers80002]

Thanks that was great.

What about businesses that post "no guns" signs? Here in NH the signs carry no weight of law...meaning you are only breaking company policy and not the law....but you can be asked to leave and be arrested for trespass if you refuse.

The signs have been adressed here. I just can't find it right now.
It is a condition of enterance, I think that's how it was stated.
So they do carry "some" weight here.

[wedoada]

Found it. Thanks for your help.

[gnbrotz]

Thanks that was great.

What about businesses that post "no guns" signs? Here in NH the signs carry no weight of law...meaning you are only breaking company policy and not the law....but you can be asked to leave and be arrested for trespass if you refuse.

We have a similar situation here. Note however that one of our resident attorneys has suggested that ignoring a sign has the (albeit small) risk of being charged. There is no case law on this, but to say your are completely in the clear isn't a factual statement.

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Also, posted signs hold no legal weight in PA, the management must tell someone specifically that they are not permitted to bring a weapon into the building and ask the person to leave before they can do anything more.

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Please stop saying this, it's not necessarily true, no matter how many times it's repeated.

If you carry a gun into a place that is posted against guns, you could arguably be prosecuted under the trespassing statute, for doing something on the property that you have been placed on notice you are without license to do.

Signs have legal weight. The signs in the parking garage that say "not responsible for lost items" have legal weight. Signs are not a legal nullity, and in the absence of case law interpreting the trespassing statute to clearly negate the "no guns" signs, we do a disservice to people by giving them the false sense of confidence that they are free to ignore these signs.

It's true that other states have specific statutes giving weight to these specific signs, and PA does not have such a law. However, that's not the same as saying that there's no operative difference between having a sign and not having a sign. You can't be prosecuted in PA under the "disobeying a no weapons sign" statute because there is none, but we do have a "trespassing" statute. A sign puts you on notice as to the terms of the permission granted to you to use the private property of another. If you go outside those terms of use, you are trespassing.

This is a legal matter, it's a legal conclusion, and you need to have a firm legal basis before telling anyone that it's safe to say "screw you" to a property owner and make him tell you face-to-face what his sign already advised you.

[Exbiker]

You`ll find this to be a gun friendly state. Hey I used to service the commercial laundry that sits down in the hole by I think a creek in Lebanon.

[wedoada]

Kleen laundry....

[Exbiker]

Yep, used to pull a tanker in there once a week.