Transitioning from OC in DE to OC in PA?

**Ken_in_Delaware** · February 25th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Over on DELOC.org were discussing the differences and how one can OC from one state to the other.

In DE, we can OC in the car it has to be visible on the passenger seat, or in a visibly mounted holster, or on the dash! However; in PA, there's no provision for OC in a car, so how does one get from home to someplace where you intend to OC?

Our amateur interpretation of the PA Code leads us to believe that transportation (unloaded in the trunk ammo separate) is only legal to or from a range. If that's the case, then???

Personally, I have a FL License so, as I approach the PA state line, I slip my Colt into my Serpa, and all is well with the world, but not so with many of my friends...

HELP!

**fingers80002** · February 25th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Any state that has reciprocity with PA, permit/license works.

A person with such permit, may have the firearm loaned to them, in PA.
I transported for sfn's glock for her, during her fiasco.

If I am wrong, someone more knowledgeable will step-up.

**truecrimson** · February 25th, 2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by fingers80002

Any state that has reciprocity with PA, permit/license works.

A person with such permit, may have the firearm loaned to them, in PA.
I transported for sfn's glock for her, during her fiasco.

If I am wrong, someone more knowledgeable will step-up.

Any state license/permit at all works for vehicle carry, it does not have to be one with reciprocity.

Reciprocity would cover you for CC.

Have a license/permit from somewhere. Put the gun anywhere you like in the car, in any condition you like (bearing in mind social norms that may get you into coversations that involve a lot of phrases like "am I being detained"). Get out of car at destination and OC away.

ETA: If the person has no license they will have to "lend" their gun to a licensed person, or walk from the border.

**DaveM55** · February 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM

To carry a loaded weapon in a vehicle in Pa, you need a Pa LTCF or one that has reciprocity with Pa. In a vehicle it's considered concealed in Pa.

The LTCF is a License to carry concealed or in a vehicle.

18 Pa.C.S. § 6109: Licenses
(a) Purpose of license.--A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.
(e) Issuance of license.--
(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an investigation not to exceed 45 days, it appears that the applicant is an individual concerning whom no good cause exists to deny the license. A license shall not be issued to any of the following:

**HiredGoon** · February 25th, 2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by DaveM55

To carry a loaded weapon in a vehicle in Pa, you need a Pa LTCF or one that has reciprocity with Pa. In a vehicle it's considered concealed in Pa.

The LTCF is a License to carry concealed or in a vehicle.

And to open carry in Philly and to carry in a declared emergency

**gnbrotz** · February 25th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by DaveM55

To carry a loaded weapon in a vehicle in Pa, you need a Pa LTCF or one that has reciprocity with Pa.

Nope. Reciprocity is only required for CC. ANY license is valid for carry in a vehicle.

§6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
(b)Exceptions
(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle which, person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

**DaveM55** · February 25th, 2009, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

Nope. Reciprocity is only required for CC. ANY license is valid for carry in a vehicle.

Thank you.

**Ken_in_Delaware** · February 25th, 2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by fingers80002

A person with such permit, may have the firearm loaned to them, in PA. I transported for sfn's Glock for her, during her fiasco.

So... practically speaking...

OC is only reasonably possible in PA if you have a LTCF; since you can't transport your firearm without one.

**fingers80002** · February 25th, 2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ken_in_Delaware

So... practically speaking...

OC is only reasonably possible in PA if you have a LTCF; since you can't transport your firearm without one.

OC is completely possible, transport is the issue, as others have pointed out, vehicle carry is Ok, with any permit/license.

If someone doesn't have a permit/license, they can "loan the firearm to a permit/license holder" until they get to their destination.

**Fraggle09027** · February 26th, 2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ken_in_Delaware

Over on DELOC.org were discussing the differences and how one can OC from one state to the other.

In DE, we can OC in the car it has to be visible on the passenger seat, or in a visibly mounted holster, or on the dash! However; in PA, there's no provision for OC in a car, so how does one get from home to someplace where you intend to OC?

Our amateur interpretation of the PA Code leads us to believe that transportation (unloaded in the trunk ammo separate) is only legal to or from a range. If that's the case, then???

Personally, I have a FL License so, as I approach the PA state line, I slip my Colt into my Serpa, and all is well with the world, but not so with many of my friends...

HELP!

As several others have answered, if your with a LTCF holder (and you do not hold one) he can transport the gun.

If your by yourself legally you can bring your OCW unless your going from the place of purchase, to or from a range, to or from a gunsmith, and most likely I am missing one or two but I'm confident someone will chime in.