Wyoming Reciprocity to Cease

[LittleRedToyota]

And owning a firearm was never a right in the UK. Ever.

actually, owning arms sort of was and still is a right protected under the British Declaration of Rights of 1689 for *protestants*...however, they attach the condition "as allowed by law" which kinda makes it moot. and, of course, the british government is just as good--or better--at ignoring the documents which limit its authority as is the US government.

from: http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...tDocId=1518621

Subjects’ Arms.
That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law.

[camper]

actually, owning arms sort of was and still is a right protected under the British Declaration of Rights of 1689 for *protestants*...however, they attach the condition "as allowed by law" which kinda makes it moot. and, of course, the british government is just as good--or better--at ignoring the documents which limit its authority as is the US government.

from: http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...tDocId=1518621

OK...I stand corrected. But yeah, that allowed by law thing makes it moot and the 'protestants only' clause certainly treads on the most basic human rights. But still, that's a very interesting tidbit of info.

camper

[God's Country]

cite... afaik you are _not_ correct

I also believe any drug conviction under the controlled substance act is a denial for ltcf, no matter ho minor the violation.

A license shall not be issued to any of the following:

(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L. 233, No. 64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.

So I'm confused what's the issue?

[God's Country]

This really does suck btw.

Does Wyoming issue to non res?

[LittleRedToyota]

This really does suck btw.

Does Wyoming issue to non res?

no, they do not. they do still honor UT, though...which you can get.

[CZ40P]

I also believe any drug conviction under the controlled substance act is a denial for ltcf, no matter ho minor the violation.
Quote:
A license shall not be issued to any of the following:

(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L. 233, No. 64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.


So I'm confused what's the issue?

and the rest of the cite says
"or any equivalent Federal statute or equivalent statute of any other state, that may be punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding two years"

Kind of changes the meaning when you leave off half the statute

[ChuckS]

and the rest of the cite says
"or any equivalent Federal statute or equivalent statute of any other state, that may be punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding two years"

Kind of changes the meaning when you leave off half the statute

That is an "OR"

So if we prohibit an LTCF to those convicted of a state drug charges, which appear to be mostly misdemeanors we seem to be equivalent or even stricter.

Sowhat is the problem. I'm confused too.

[kevindsingleton]

It's the "imprisonment exceeding two years" that makes the difference.

Wyoming calls for any offense to be prohibiting, but in PA, it takes an offense punishable by at least two years. An offense punishable by less than two years is not prohibiting, in PA.

[God's Country]

and the rest of the cite says
"or any equivalent Federal statute or equivalent statute of any other state, that may be punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding two years"

Kind of changes the meaning when you leave off half the statute

I didn't leave out anything. My quote is from the UFA (from hangunlaw.us)

(e) Issuance of license.
(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an investigation not to exceed 45 days, it appears that the applicant is an individual concerning whom no good cause exists to deny the license. A license shall not be issued to any of the following:
(i) An individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.
(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L. 233, No. 64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.
(iii) An individual convicted of a crime enumerated in section 6105.
(iv) An individual who, within the past ten years, has been adjudicated delinquent for a crime enumerated in section 6105 or for an offense under The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.
(v) An individual who is not of sound mind or who has ever been committed to a mental institution.
(vi) An individual who is addicted to or is an unlawful user of marijuana or a stimulant, depressant or narcotic drug.
(vii) An individual who is a habitual drunkard.
(viii) An individual who is charged with or has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year except as provided for in section 6123 (relating to waiver of disability or pardons).
(ix) A resident of another state who does not possess a current license or permit or similar document to carry a firearm issued by that state if a license is provided for by the laws of that state, as published annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury under 18 U.S.C. §921(a)(19) (relating to definitions).
(x) An alien who is illegally in the United States.
(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the armed forces of the United States under dishonorable conditions.
(xii) An individual who is a fugitive from justice. This subparagraph does not apply to an individual whose fugitive status is based upon* nonmoving or moving summary offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).
*So in original. Probably "a" should be inserted.
(xiii) An individual who is otherwise prohibited from possessing, using, manufacturing, controlling, purchasing, selling or transferring a firearm as provided by section 6105.
(2) (Deleted)
(3) The license shall bear the name, address, date of birth, race, sex, citizenship, Social Security number, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes and signature of the licensee; the signature of the sheriff issuing the license; the reason for issuance; and the period of validation. The sheriff may also require a photograph of the licensee on the license. The original license shall be issued to the applicant. The first copy of the license shall be forwarded to the commissioner within seven days of the date of issue, and a second copy shall be retained by the issuing authority for a period of six years.

Besides the application for a ltcf clearly states (mine did)that any drug related conviction will prohibit licensing.

So again what's the issue here?

[CZ40P]

It's the "imprisonment exceeding two years" that makes the difference.

Wyoming calls for any offense to be prohibiting, but in PA, it takes an offense punishable by at least two years. An offense punishable by less than two years is not prohibiting, in PA.

What he said