This is the problem with UN Involvement

**Dredly** · January 18th, 2009, 01:19 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480445,00.html

- Hamas has agreed for a 1 week cease fire to allow Israel to withdrawl? ummm WHAT? Israel IS WINNING by a huge margin. how about Hamas signs a treaty of unconditional surrender and Israel leaves the victors.

**Rick Thorne** · January 18th, 2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dredly

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480445,00.html

- Hamas has agreed for a 1 week cease fire to allow Israel to withdrawl? ummm WHAT? Israel IS WINNING by a huge margin. how about Hamas signs a treaty of unconditional surrender and Israel leaves the victors.

Why won't the UN keep it's nose out and let Israel kick there ass back to the stone ages! I think I would get pissed off if someone was shooting on average of 7 rockets a day for years at me too!

**Brick** · January 18th, 2009, 06:53 PM

The only purpose UN sponsored cease fires have ever served was for Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO to refit and rearm. The only time Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO wants a cease fire is when they're getting their asses kicked. Israel needs to keep the pressure on and give Hamas such a good beating that they could never recover.

But, has anyone noticed that until 1967 the Gaza Strip was part of Egypt, then after the 1967 war it became occupied by Israel. The Israelis withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005 and moved all of the settlers out also, but Egypt refused to take the Gaza Strip back under theor control.

**Philbert** · January 18th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Israel has decided that now is the time for a ceasefire. What makes you think it was at the behest of the UN? The UN has been calling for a ceasefire since day 1.

**mjfletcher** · January 18th, 2009, 07:24 PM

All I'll say is:
Before the jews were freed from slavery in egypt, the palastinians (who are arabs) lived in palestine which the jews later claimed as their promised land. They forced the arab palestinians out.
After the roman empire pulled out of the region, the jews did too because trade collapsed and they weren't willing to go back to living as they had before roman rule. The arab palestinians moved back into their homeland which they'd been forced off of.
1947 the UN took the nation of palestine, renamed it israel, forced the arab palestinians out of their homeland, and gave it to the jews.

So being as the jews stole it from the arab palestinians, then abandoned it, then the UN stole it from the arab palestinians again, just whos land is it?

EVERYONE should stay the hell out of it and let the 2 involved parties (the jews and the arab palestinians) settle it for themselves. We all know that's not going to happen which means their war is never going to end.

**FNG19** · January 18th, 2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Philbert

Israel has decided that now is the time for a ceasefire. What makes you think it was at the behest of the UN? The UN has been calling for a ceasefire since day 1.

And by doing so, setting up another year of nothing while Hamas rearms, more rockets firing over the border, and another invasion that will net nothing.

Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

**justashooter** · January 19th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by mjfletcher

All I'll say is:
Before the jews were freed from slavery in egypt, the palastinians (who are arabs) lived in palestine which the jews later claimed as their promised land. They forced the arab palestinians out.
After the roman empire pulled out of the region, the jews did too because trade collapsed and they weren't willing to go back to living as they had before roman rule. The arab palestinians moved back into their homeland which they'd been forced off of.
1947 the UN took the nation of palestine, renamed it israel, forced the arab palestinians out of their homeland, and gave it to the jews.

actually, if you read the book, you'll see that abram was an iraqi called by G_d to move to israel and kill all of the local people so he and his tribe could settle the land. they did, and lived there happy for generations. a famine came, so the jews went to egypt to work for their brother joseph, who they had abandoned in the desert for dead years earlier and who had since become chief advisor to the pharoh of egypt, who was sitting on a big pile of corn.

a few years work turned into 400 years slavery, then a mass exodus after a mass of locusts and other evil stuff. the jews took the land again, and held it under suffereage and fealty to their own or neighboring kings till the romans. when the romans went under things got bad all over, and cold, so the corn was short again. some jews went to europe looking for work, and came home in 1945.

euro jews are about 35% of the current israeli jews. the rest had been in palestine (israel) since their cousins went looking for work, had been fought over by christians and muslims for centuries, and bypassed as an important trading route by the red sea and decent ocean-going ships that could transport goods faster and cheaper than camels.