Glock 23 malfunction

[PAallterrain]

So i talked the girlfriend into buying a pistol, and she decided on a g23. With the rep glocks have i thought it would be a good pistol for her.

Today was her second day out shooting. First day she burned though 50 rounds, today she went through another 50. After the first shooting session, i instructed her on how to tear the pistol down, take it apart, clean. lube and reassemble. Today we shot 2 full magazines through it, then halfway through the second magazine it jammed. Ejected spend casing and lodged the fresh round into the feed ramp to where it would not go into the chamber.

She handed me the gun as she is unfamiliar with jams and such. I unjammed the gun, put the magazine back in and dropped the slide. Same thing happened again. Unjammed the gun, put the mag back in and fired another 2 or 3 full magazines out of it without malfunction.

We were shooting CCI blazer brass out of it as i wont let her shoot my lead reloads. My S/W MP has eaten about 1000 rounds of .40 CCI blazer brass without any issues. I was pleased she picked a good reliable pistol like a glock, and now not so much.

So whats the deal? Anyone else have this issue with there G23? I can't see it being ammo related, and i don't feel its right that it would do that. I am thinking about calling glock tomorrow and get there opinions on it. Anyone have any opinions?

[tacticalreload]

I think the first step would be to disassemble it again. Clean it very well and inspect it (including springs). Make sure it goes back to gether properly and only with the correct amount (and type) of lube in the correct places. Then go shoot it again without limp-wristing and see what happens. If it happens again, keep track of the mags to see if it's worse with one of them. And try a different type of ammo. I figure what you would hear from Glock is going to be similar.

[FUNDAMENTALS]

I have a question, as to the magazine capacity, hi-cap?. Also when she
loads the magazine, is she giving it a rap to the palm of the hand to set the
spring/follower/ammo. (It is a procedure taught several years ago when using
the 1911 in the service). Was it just the one magazine?
1. Magazine not inserted properly
2. Underpowered Ammunition
3. Dirty Magazine
4. Weak Magazine Spring
5. Dirty Chammber
6. Tight Extractor
7. Deformed Magazine(magazine sides or lips deformed)
8. Weak Recoil Spring.
The above eight, are right out of the Glock Amrorers Manual.
I would suggest a good overal cleaning of the pistol and magazines. as well
as proper lubrication.
Also you/she could have run into a few bad factory rounds, not uncommon
these days. Just a thought.

[FUNDAMENTALS]

I have a question, as to the magazine capacity, hi-cap?. Also when she
loads the magazine, is she giving it a rap to the palm of the hand to set the
spring/follower/ammo. (It is a procedure taught several years ago when using
the 1911 in the service). Was it just the one magazine?
1. Magazine not inserted properly
2. Underpowered Ammunition
3. Dirty Magazine
4. Weak Magazine Spring
5. Dirty Chammber
6. Tight Extractor
7. Deformed Magazine(magazine sides or lips deformed)
8. Weak Recoil Spring.
The above eight, are right out of the Glock Amrorers Manual.
I would suggest a good overal cleaning of the pistol and magazines. as well
as proper lubrication.
Also you/she could have run into a few bad factory rounds, not uncommon
these days. Just a thought.

[FUNDAMENTALS]

Sorry for the double post.

[Suburban]

Then go shoot it again without limp-wristing and see what happens. If it happens again, keep track of the mags to see if it's worse with one of them. And try a different type of ammo. I figure what you would hear from Glock is going to be similar.

Yeah, it sounds like short-stroking due to limp wrist. Fairly common to those new to centerfire pistols, and I'll admit to letting it happen now and then myself.

[ithinkimamedic]

On the same note of what Suburban said. New guns, yes glocks too, can have malf's. I would hypothasize that with more rounds down range that it will smooth itself out and work just fine. I have carried a glock 23 for the last 4 years and had malf's as a result of 1 magazine and riding the slide with my thumb once. I've put about 700rds of blazer brass through it this year with no problems, as well as the blazer alum, AE, WWB, wolf and winchester Ranger HST.

If you want another set of eyes and another 23 to compare it to I'd be more than happy to meet up at scotia sometime.

I would give it somemore time before you call glock and try local resources first.

[jack76590]

Is the slide behind the round, holding the slide open, but without the slide release lever engaged? Is the round in the magazine with nose of round against inside face of mag? Bullet nose maybe nose diving in mag a bit? If you pull back slide does round pop up and chamber when you release slide? Does it tend to happen with middle rounds in mag?

[PAallterrain]

The incident shooting could of been her limp-wristing it. I never herd of it before until now as we are kinda new into pistol shooting, but that could be her issue. Maybe she just needs to get use to it. What got me though was the next round down did the same thing when i dropped the slide from being locked back. The gun and magazines are brand new, so it should not be dirty or worn out parts.

We will put a few more hundred rounds downrange next week, so i will report back on if we have any more issues. If we do maybe i will take you up on that ithinkimamedic. Thanks for the offer.

[Legion_Prime]

On the same note of what Suburban said. New guns, yes glocks too, can have malf's.

Say it ain't so! Does this mean that I can't go through airport metal detectors with it either?