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**Emptymag** · January 27th, 2025, 10:39 PM

Well this addresses one of my main dislikes about suppressors.
Keeps your gun to a reasonable overall length.
Drop that tax stamp and you'll have my attention.

**arjohnson** · January 27th, 2025, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Well this addresses one of my main dislikes about suppressors.
Keeps your gun to a reasonable overall length.
Drop that tax stamp and you'll have my attention.

As I mentioned, suppressor market is ever evolving with lots of new stuff, better, lighter cans, 3d printed cans. Looking forward to buying a couple more of the newer ones.

**Emptymag** · January 27th, 2025, 11:13 PM

Bolt action 5.56 with SIDE feed AR15 mags

I love this.

**bogey1** · January 27th, 2025, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Well this addresses one of my main dislikes about suppressors.
Keeps your gun to a reasonable overall length.
Drop that tax stamp and you'll have my attention.

Put a brace on it.

**Emptymag** · January 27th, 2025, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by bogey1

Put a brace on it.

That doesn't keep a 7 inch barrel from becoming a 13" barrel after adding a suppressor.

**arjohnson** · January 28th, 2025, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

That doesn't keep a 7 inch barrel from becoming a 13" barrel after adding a suppressor.

Unless you go integral like a 10/22 or similar suppressors will always add length.

**Emptymag** · January 28th, 2025, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by arjohnson

Unless you go integral like a 10/22 or similar suppressors will always add length.

That's exactly what the video was about - a new style of suppressor that "covers" the barrel, vs extending from the muzzle.

I have no idea what bogey's "brace" comment has to do with the overall length.

**arjohnson** · January 28th, 2025, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

That's exactly what the video was about - a new style of suppressor that "covers" the barrel, vs extending from the muzzle.

I have no idea what bogey's "brace" comment has to do with the overall length.

That*s nothing new, HK MP5 SD does that, uses a ported barrel versus putting on end of barrel. Price point is nice in comparison. Looks like you have to add a suppressor so it will still increase length just not as much. Purpose of a SD type ported barrel will allow or should allow the use of 115 grn ammo to be quiet and not having to use subsonic 147 or heavier grain bullets.

**arjohnson** · January 28th, 2025, 11:37 AM

Also looks like you can use a regular 9mm suppressor with an adapter instead of a specific made SD suppressor, not sure how that will work out but interested to see how it works and shoots.

**Ronin** · January 28th, 2025, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Really cool - and AFFORDABLE.

Too bad it's mostly absurd without the stock and a tax stamp. (= no longer so affordable)

I just bought a VZ61 parts kit and was thinking about going with a 3d printed lower. But I plan to get a tax stamp and SBR it, so I need a lower receiver that isn't going to wear out over time. The 3D printed stuff is great for funsies, but not for a long term "investment", IMO.