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January 25th, 2025, 12:08 PM #21
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January 25th, 2025, 06:07 PM #22
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Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
To answer your question: It happens more than most people not engaged in the business realize. It's happed to us a few times; though oddly enough, on guns we sold outright and not transfers. We don't do that many transfers; usually for people we know and trust to vet their buyers. Unfortunately many of the private sellers don't care who buys their items as long as they pay. If the private seller sells his handgun to some lowlife who can pass a PICS, who's straw buying for some other lowlife who can't; it's no issue for them as the paper trail of transfer responsibility is on the FFL and not the transferor. As Marines55 pointed out, the onus of that third party transfer stays with the FFL for as long as they have said FFL. Nobody likes an onus.
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January 25th, 2025, 07:25 PM #23
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Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
mokoitis has been nothing but argumentative with every interaction he has had with me….and others. He is only here to argue with people as he contradicts his own statements just to argue with someone. I could ask him questions about his job (if he has one) and how many times he was screwed over by a complete stranger….but i dont. no one pissed in my cheerios today…im just tired of the bullshit and i dont tolerate it from certain people. Again, my point is more than valid that none of the folks on here would drive 2 hours to perform $20 worth of work and guarantee it for life. If someone says that they would, they are either lying or stupid.
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January 25th, 2025, 07:27 PM #24
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Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
yet another chuckster that hides behind the anonymity of a computer screen name, chiming in only to add nonsensical responses that benefit no one in the thread. as soon as i saw the name pop up, i chuckled to myself knowing that he had nothing of importance or validity to add. i was right.
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January 25th, 2025, 08:32 PM #25
Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
Haha!
You must be a hoot at parties!I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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January 26th, 2025, 09:33 AM #26
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Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
i can also tell you from personal experience . when the alphabet bois have a target ? they will milk them for any other person who has had an interaction with them . the gunbuster gun thefts in wv that linked to a pa buyer /seller / cohort ? got me a visit over what my personal interaction with the pa cohort was or pertained too . my ass was saved by my personal records i keep , in case of these incidents . it was also the only time my c&r books were asked for or perused .
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January 26th, 2025, 10:07 AM #27
Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
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January 26th, 2025, 11:29 AM #28
Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
My understanding is this federal law restriction on off permanent business premises dealing by FFLs (such as gun show transfers), at least according to ATF, applies only to out of state FFLs (with their business inventory). This restriction does not apply to in state FFLs as their gun show table would be their temporary business premises.
There is also no federal law restricting private parties from transferring their firearms to an out of state FFL on their business premises nor any restriction on that FFL from receiving those firearms on their business premises from the out of state private party.
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January 26th, 2025, 11:34 AM #29
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Re: Third Party Transfers at Gun Shows?
no worries at all on my end. I give respect when people give me respect. Emptymag and Mokoitis have much to learn in that field. im guessing this is why others have contacted me and informed me how to block them specifically and perhaps why one of them is no longer a moderator.
that being said, i answered the question to the best of my ability based off of personal experience and the experience of other FFL holders. I meant no ill will at all and gave a full and complete answer to why most dealers no longer do personal transfers at a show. I understand that many people have little knowledge of what requirements an FFL holder is bound to, but when i try to explain it to everyone, i am met with argumentative persons like the two mentioned above, that do not have an actual FFL but rely on FFL holders to consign their firearms for them. the points obviously go over their heads.
I too am not as active as i once was because of these few chucksters that feel a compulsory need to throw a snarky remark into the mix but never add any real information to the post. im guessing those fudds live. a lonely and unproductive life and need to interwebs anonymity to make themselves feel better.
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January 29th, 2025, 11:58 PM #30
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