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    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    The best part of the ruling is it specifically says ATF does not have the authority to make such rules. Hooray! That may be the leverage useful regarding other edicts.
    Other best part is the minority decision recognizes that AR*s are common use weapons. I can see that being used in future lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    Other best part is the minority decision recognizes that AR*s are common use weapons. I can see that being used in future lawsuits.
    I was just coming to post that. Sotomayor’s dissent specifically described bump stocks as devices that are attached to “commonly used semi-automatic weapons”

    That instantly makes an AR-15 ban a violation of the Common Use clause of the Heller Decision. That one is going to sting lol

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    How you bring down a castle is from the inside not from banging on it from the outside.

    The rule was retarded to begin with and a big failing of Trump.

    People kept nibbling on the inside with the courts and finally brought the whole thing crumbling down.

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    Default Re: Bump Stock Ban ruled illegal

    https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...how-to-destroy

    How to Destroy Bump Stocks
    Destruction Instructions

    For destruction, regardless of manufacturer or model, a bump stock must be made incapable of being readily restored to its intended function by, e.g., crushing, melting or shredding the bump stock.

    Bump stocks may also be destroyed by cutting, so long as the bump stock is completely severed in the areas constituting critical design features, denoted by the red lines in the specific model of bump stock destruction diagrams that follow.

    The bump stock must be completely severed in each area indicated by the red line.

    Destroying a bump stock using any other method may be legally insufficient, such that continued possession of the device may violate 18 U.S.C. 922(o).

    Download PDF with all diagrams

    Destruction Diagrams
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    Default Re: Bump Stock Ban ruled illegal

    lol

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    I am not going to go out and buy the first bump stock that comes back on the market.

    But I will buy at least one JIC.
    American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE

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    Default Re: Bump Stock Ban ruled illegal

    Perfect thread for this.

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    Default Re: Bump Stock Ban ruled illegal

    From the Inquirer.

    Philadelphia outlaws bump stocks days after Supreme Court rejects federal ban
    The local ban, which takes effect immediately and bars anyone from manufacturing or buying the devices in Philadelphia, is almost certain to be challenged in court.

    Philadelphia Mayor Cherelle L. Parker on Tuesday signed legislation outlawing rapid-fire gun devices just days after the Supreme Court overturned a federal ban on so-called bump stocks and the same day Senate Democrats tried unsuccessfully to again prohibit them nationwide.

    The local ban takes effect immediately and bars anyone in Philadelphia from manufacturing or buying devices that are designed to accelerate how fast a semi-automatic gun can fire. That includes bump stocks, which are meant for rifles, and “switches,” which can be attached to handguns.

    Bump stocks, in addition to now being legal at the federal level, are allowed under Pennsylvania state law, and the Democratic-controlled state House narrowly defeated a bill to ban them in May. Switches are illegal under federal law, but that could face a challenge following the Supreme Court’s ruling.

    Parker, who signed the local ban Tuesday during a ceremony at City Hall, said that while the rate of shootings is declining in the city, her administration “will not rest.”

    “When we have devices floating around Philadelphia like these so called switch devices, which can turn a handgun into a machine gun, there is no time to rest and or to slow down,” she said.

    The legislation is almost certain to be challenged in court. Under state law, Philadelphia is generally prohibited from enacting gun regulations that are stricter than what state lawmakers have implemented.

    However, in February, an appeals court upheld a 2021 city ordinance prohibiting the manufacturing of ghost guns in the city, saying it didn’t regulate firearms, but merely prohibited the conversion of some parts into guns.

    Councilmember Curtis Jones Jr., the prime sponsor of the legislation, said the city is prepared for a challenge.

    “We have plenty of lawyers,” he said.

    The signing comes as the devices were thrust back into the national conversation about firearms following the Supreme Court’s divided decision Friday striking down a federal ban. The regulation was implemented by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives under former President Donald Trump after a 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas that left 60 people dead and hundreds wounded.

    In the court’s majority opinion, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that while a rifle outfitted with a bump stock can fire at a speed rivaling automatic weapons — which are illegal for civilians to possess — it is “not a ‘machine gun’ because it cannot fire more than one shot ‘by a single function of the trigger.’”

    Following the court’s decision, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) announced he would bring legislation banning bump stocks up for a vote, saying it would return the country to the status quo set under Trump, a Republican.

    That effort failed Tuesday after Senate Republicans blocked a vote on the bill.

    Parker signed two other significant pieces of legislation Tuesday. One authorizes the installation of speed-enforcement cameras along the length of Broad Street. The second regulates security contractors who work in the city’s privatized eviction system.

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/ph...m=News%20Alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by wew3 View Post
    From the Inquirer.

    Philadelphia outlaws bump stocks days after Supreme Court rejects federal ban
    The local ban, which takes effect immediately and bars anyone from manufacturing or buying the devices in Philadelphia, is almost certain to be challenged in court.

    Philadelphia Mayor Cherelle L. Parker on Tuesday signed legislation outlawing rapid-fire gun devices just days after the Supreme Court overturned a federal ban on so-called bump stocks and the same day Senate Democrats tried unsuccessfully to again prohibit them nationwide.

    The local ban takes effect immediately and bars anyone in Philadelphia from manufacturing or buying devices that are designed to accelerate how fast a semi-automatic gun can fire. That includes bump stocks, which are meant for rifles, and *switches,* which can be attached to handguns.

    Bump stocks, in addition to now being legal at the federal level, are allowed under Pennsylvania state law, and the Democratic-controlled state House narrowly defeated a bill to ban them in May. Switches are illegal under federal law, but that could face a challenge following the Supreme Court*s ruling.

    Parker, who signed the local ban Tuesday during a ceremony at City Hall, said that while the rate of shootings is declining in the city, her administration *will not rest.*

    *When we have devices floating around Philadelphia like these so called switch devices, which can turn a handgun into a machine gun, there is no time to rest and or to slow down,* she said.

    The legislation is almost certain to be challenged in court. Under state law, Philadelphia is generally prohibited from enacting gun regulations that are stricter than what state lawmakers have implemented.

    However, in February, an appeals court upheld a 2021 city ordinance prohibiting the manufacturing of ghost guns in the city, saying it didn*t regulate firearms, but merely prohibited the conversion of some parts into guns.

    Councilmember Curtis Jones Jr., the prime sponsor of the legislation, said the city is prepared for a challenge.

    *We have plenty of lawyers,* he said.

    The signing comes as the devices were thrust back into the national conversation about firearms following the Supreme Court*s divided decision Friday striking down a federal ban. The regulation was implemented by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives under former President Donald Trump after a 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas that left 60 people dead and hundreds wounded.

    In the court*s majority opinion, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that while a rifle outfitted with a bump stock can fire at a speed rivaling automatic weapons * which are illegal for civilians to possess * it is *not a *machine gun* because it cannot fire more than one shot *by a single function of the trigger.**

    Following the court*s decision, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) announced he would bring legislation banning bump stocks up for a vote, saying it would return the country to the status quo set under Trump, a Republican.

    That effort failed Tuesday after Senate Republicans blocked a vote on the bill.

    Parker signed two other significant pieces of legislation Tuesday. One authorizes the installation of speed-enforcement cameras along the length of Broad Street. The second regulates security contractors who work in the city*s privatized eviction system.

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/ph...m=News%20Alert
    Filly should start banning criminals.
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    Bump Stock open carry rally in a Philly park soon. Rittenhouse Square would be ideal.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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