I like the twist on the New Sub 2000 Gen 3

**Emptymag** · January 2nd, 2024, 05:08 PM

This is why I like when "guns nobody asked for" hit the market. They often have features that nudge other manufacturers into action.
Without competition, things remain stagnant.

**raxar** · January 2nd, 2024, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ronin

The Gen 3 at $500 is still a better bargain with all of the upgrades. To get the same in Gen 2 you'd need to buy about $400-$500 in parts from M*CARBO and Red Lion Precision. Plus the time to install all of them. If you're happy with unusable sights, mediocre trigger, and no convenient way to mount an optic that doesn't require a special mount, then a $250 Sub2k may work.

My point being that Kel-tec wanted to get rid of the inventory because they knew people would prefer the gen-3