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    Default Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    Is this the same Eagle Arms of the local PA gun shows?

    https://dailyvoice.com/pennsylvania/...ng-ghost-guns/

    The charges come against FSS Armory, a New Jersey licensed gun dealer, and two Pennsylvania-based gun companies, Patriot Enterprises Worldwide LLC, a gun show company known more commonly as Eagle Shows, and Not An LLC, a ghost gun products vendor doing business as JSD Supply, New Jersey Attorney General Matthew J. Platkin said on Tuesday, Dec. 12.

    FSS Armory, in Pine Brook, stored stacks of firearms within “easy reach” of a ground-floor window and showcased their location online — “a decision that was both unlawful and reckless,” Platkin said.

    The location had its window smashed and was burglarized on Friday, Jan. 6 by individuals who had conducted a search of the term “gun stores in NJ” on cellphones. A total of 20 firearms were stolen, including pistols, shotguns, rifles and a revolver.

    The majority of the stolen firearms have yet to be recovered, and those that have been found were discovered at crime scenes or on the black market, Platkin said.

    Meanwhile, Eagle Shows and gun show vendor JSD Supply — who have the same owner — allegedly targeted the sale of untraceable firearms, aka "ghost guns," to New Jersey residents.

    The supplier does not conduct background checks or require buyers to ensure that they have not been disqualified from firearm purchase, Platkin says. New Jersey State Police have arrested numerous residents returning from Eagle Shows with illegal products.

    “New Jersey’s residents demand and deserve to live free from fear of gun violence, and that requires we do everything possible to get illegal guns off our streets and out of our communities,” said Platkin.

    "Today’s action should make New Jersey’s position clear: Gun traffickers and their enablers will be held accountable when their actions place our residents in danger. Gun dealers and the firearms industry must abide by our laws or face the consequences."

    The state is seeking monetary and punitive damages as well as injunctive relief and future costs that arise as a result of the public nuisance.

    “Selling firearms is a serious business, and irresponsible behavior by gun industry members can have dire consequences for the public,” said SAFE Director Ravi Ramanathan. “The unlawful and unreasonable actions of FSS Armory, JSD Supply, and Eagle Shows have caused significant harms to our communities, and they must be held accountable.”

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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    Eagle Shows, not Eagle Arms. Eagle Arms sold the gun show promotion business to the owner of JSD, who renamed it Eagle Shows.

    Reading the OP, it appears that the NJAG charged the owner, not the Feds.

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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    So the fact that the state police targeted gun owners isn’t an issue here? I can’t imagine someone will miss the chance for a lawsuit.

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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    I can't see how this can stand up in court.

    #1: it's not a gun and no FFL is required. No ID/BGC required.

    #2: If an item is illegal in your state of residence, that doesn't prohibit you from purchasing it in a state where it is legal.

    If a PA resident buys MJ in a recreationally legal state, can the PA AG charge them with a crime? Same thing. Maybe if they bring it back to PA, but that's not the responsibility of the seller, only the buyer.

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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    Isn't this old news? Article says January 6th so at best it was 11.5 months ago.

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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanB View Post
    So the fact that the state police targeted gun owners isn*t an issue here? I can*t imagine someone will miss the chance for a lawsuit.
    White House turns focus to states in latest push to curb gun violence

    By Azi Paybarah

    December 13, 2023 at 3:28 p.m. EST


    The White House on Wednesday announced a new plan to assist states in curbing gun violence, turning the attention to the local level with the hope of further federal gun-control legislation fading.

    In addition to two new executive actions on gun storage and reporting lost or stolen firearms, the Biden administration is offering tools to help states ban assault weapons, strengthen background checks and implement local programs to prevent and respond to gun violence.


    *We are fighting just for what is reasonable and, of course, what is right,* Vice President Harris said Wednesday at an event unveiling the initiative before 100 state legislators from 39 states, including several with Republican-controlled legislatures.

    Some of the policies the White House is advocating that states embrace have gained little or no traction on Capitol Hill. For instance, the plan urges states to enact laws to allow victims of gun violence to sue gun manufacturers and gun dealers.

    *These are all policies where the White House, in this administration, has made progress at the federal level,* Stefanie Feldman, director of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, said during a call with reporters this week. *And we are going to continue to call on Congress to act, but in the meantime we are going to be working hand in hand with states to advance all these agenda items.*

    There have been 39 mass killings with guns in 2023

    The Safer States Agenda also calls on state lawmakers to create an office of gun violence prevention * much as the Biden administration did earlier this year * fund community violence intervention programs and provide more resources for those affected by gun violence.


    Supporters said they welcomed the move by the White House and saw opportunities for legislative progress.

    The state legislative director for the gun-control advocacy group Giffords, Sean Holihan, said it signals the Biden administration believes *it is much more likely to pass lifesaving legislation in state capitols than it is to pass anything in Congress.*

    Holihan, who attended the White House event, also said the push for state legislation could yield results at the state level, regardless of which party is in control there.

    *It*s not just Democrats who care about it, but Republicans care about not having the wrong people have access to firearms,* he said.

    Rep. Lucy McBath (D-Ga.) spoke to the state legislators before the vice president took the stage, and the lawmaker said in a statement to The Washington Post that it felt like a *full circle* moment. She noted her history of lobbying local legislators to pass these kinds of laws after her son was killed in a 2012 shooting. McBath, who has served in the House since 2019, applauded the administration*s efforts on this issue and said in the statement, *We*re certainly not finished.*

    The White House plan is *further proof that they*re using every tool at their disposal to save lives,* said Monisha Henley, senior vice president at Everytown, a group that also advocates stricter gun laws. The effort to give local legislators *the tools and federal support to pass stronger gun safety laws will keep deadly weapons off our streets.*

    At least one gun rights group said it would fight such legislation wherever it is introduced.

    *This announcement underscores our success in resisting federal gun control,* Aidan Johnston, the director of federal affairs for Gun Owners of America, said in a statement to The Washington Post.

    The *shift to state-level actions,* Johnston said, *indicates a reluctance to push new anti-gun measures through Congress.* He added the group is *prepared to oppose any and all state-level infringements,* he said.

    Biden last year signed bipartisan gun-control legislation, the most significant law of its kind in three decades, though he conceded it did not accomplish everything he and advocates had sought. That legislation provided money for mental health services and school security, expanded criminal background checks for some gun purchases, prohibited a larger number of domestic-violence offenders from purchasing firearms, and funded programs that allow authorities to seize weapons from troubled individuals.

    Sens. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and John Cornyn (R-Tex.) negotiated that law in the wake of the 2022 mass killings in Buffalo and Uvalde, Tex.

    But more recent mass killings * including one at a Christian school in Nashville in March * did not lead to additional legislation in the divided Congress. After that shooting, Cornyn told reporters, *I would say we*ve gone about as far as we can go.*

    There have been 39 mass killings with a gun in 2023, according to data compiled by the Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University. That is the highest number recorded in the database, which has figures going back to 2006. The previous record, set last year, was 36.

    The Washington Post defines a shooting in which at least four people are killed, excluding the shooter, as a *mass killing with a gun.*
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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    I don't see how NJ has jurisdiction over PA companies operating in PA.

    I'm not in compliance with Canadian law, which is fine because the Canucks have no power over me.

    Nobody doing lawful business in PA is obliged to obey the laws of NJ, or even give a crap about them. That's the burden of those poor bastards still living in the Garden State.

    Imagine if I sold gasoline in PA and somebody bought 5 gallons and traveled to NJ and burned an orphanage down; I've done nothing in NJ. Their grandstanding is for show.

    People in free states can't knowingly help an NJ serf break the law, but we have no obligation to check the residency of people when selling non-guns to anyone.

    NJ should crucify anyone dumb enough to live there and violate their fascist laws. But NJ does NOT get to impose their mandates on other state residents. What's next, Philadelphia starts prosecuting people in Bucks county for not getting Philly building permits?

    I'd like to see how the defendants targeted NJ residents. Ads in PA publications, or on the Web, don't qualify, even if the Wokies are stupid enough to claim that cigarette ads in Penthouse magazine were targeting minors too young to buy them, or that gun manufacturers were targeting pre-teens who were ineligible to buy guns for the next few fiscal years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I don't see how NJ has jurisdiction over PA companies operating in PA.

    I'm not in compliance with Canadian law, which is fine because the Canucks have no power over me.

    Nobody doing lawful business in PA is obliged to obey the laws of NJ, or even give a crap about them. That's the burden of those poor bastards still living in the Garden State.

    Imagine if I sold gasoline in PA and somebody bought 5 gallons and traveled to NJ and burned an orphanage down; I've done nothing in NJ. Their grandstanding is for show.

    People in free states can't knowingly help an NJ serf break the law, but we have no obligation to check the residency of people when selling non-guns to anyone.

    NJ should crucify anyone dumb enough to live there and violate their fascist laws. But NJ does NOT get to impose their mandates on other state residents. What's next, Philadelphia starts prosecuting people in Bucks county for not getting Philly building permits?

    I'd like to see how the defendants targeted NJ residents. Ads in PA publications, or on the Web, don't qualify, even if the Wokies are stupid enough to claim that cigarette ads in Penthouse magazine were targeting minors too young to buy them, or that gun manufacturers were targeting pre-teens who were ineligible to buy guns for the next few fiscal years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by middlefinger View Post
    they don't care because they have unlimited funding via your taxes to stay in court forever
    This right here. They use our own money against us and we can't afford to win but them losing costs them nothing.

    PA needs to start following people who buy gas in NJ and arresting them for evading PA highway taxes too. This shit's getting pretty bad now.
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    Default Re: Feds Charge NJ, PA Firearm Companies With Illegally Storing, Selling Ghost Guns

    "The location had its window smashed and was burglarized on Friday, Jan. 6 by individuals"

    Most likely a Fed operation to set them up for the fall.

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