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    Default Racial Bias in Red Flag orders

    This issue of Injury Epidemiology features a new research report on the implementation of extreme risk protection orders (ERPOs) in King County, Washington, which includes the city of Seattle (Frattaroli et al. 2020). An easily overlooked finding in this small study now stands out in bold relief: black people were overrepresented in gun removal orders by a factor of nearly 2 to 1 compared to their share of the county population (12.0% vs. 6.9%)."

    "The Indiana study... However, a subsequent lookback at the court process and outcomes tells a subtly different story. We discovered that a significantly higher percentage of nonwhite than white individuals failed to appear at a scheduled court hearing to seek the return of their guns, and thus lost their guns by default (63% vs. 51%; p < 0.05)."


    https://injepijournal.biomedcentral....21-020-00272-z


    "Black participants were most likely to say they were not willing to ask a judge for an ERPO in all the described risk scenarios. They were also substantially less likely to say they preferred to have the police petition for an ERPO on their behalf. Black survey participants cited lack of knowledge and not trusting the system to be fair as their top reasons for being unwilling to seek out an ERPO.

    The ERPO-related court records showed:

    No Black or Hispanic/Latinx individuals who were subject to an ERPO had family or household members submit the petition.

    Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, Black and Hispanic/Latinx individuals subject to an ERPO were more often arrested at the time the order was served. This finding was partly explained by the higher proportion of assault-related (compared to self-directed) threats among these groups.

    Black respondents were also the least likely to have documented firearm access and legal representation at the ERPO hearing. "

    https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/head...g-laws/2022/09



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    Default Re: Racial Bias in Red Flag orders

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCC View Post
    This issue of Injury Epidemiology features a new research report on the implementation of extreme risk protection orders (ERPOs) in King County, Washington, which includes the city of Seattle (Frattaroli et al. 2020). An easily overlooked finding in this small study now stands out in bold relief: black people were overrepresented in gun removal orders by a factor of nearly 2 to 1 compared to their share of the county population (12.0% vs. 6.9%)."

    "The Indiana study... However, a subsequent lookback at the court process and outcomes tells a subtly different story. We discovered that a significantly higher percentage of nonwhite than white individuals failed to appear at a scheduled court hearing to seek the return of their guns, and thus lost their guns by default (63% vs. 51%; p*<*0.05)."


    https://injepijournal.biomedcentral....21-020-00272-z


    "Black participants were most likely to say they were not willing to ask a judge for an ERPO in all the described risk scenarios. They were also substantially less likely to say they preferred to have the police petition for an ERPO on their behalf. Black survey participants cited lack of knowledge and not trusting the system to be fair as their top reasons for being unwilling to seek out an ERPO.

    The ERPO-related court records showed:

    No Black or Hispanic/Latinx individuals who were subject to an ERPO had family or household members submit the petition.

    Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, Black and Hispanic/Latinx individuals subject to an ERPO were more often arrested at the time the order was served. This finding was partly explained by the higher proportion of assault-related (compared to self-directed) threats among these groups.

    Black respondents were also the least likely to have documented firearm access and legal representation at the ERPO hearing. "

    https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/head...g-laws/2022/09



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    Did the study correct for criminal activity Black Vs White, or is this just more racism hyperbole?
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    Default Re: Racial Bias in Red Flag orders

    Quote Originally Posted by markshere2 View Post
    Did the study correct for criminal activity Black Vs White, or is this just more racism hyperbole?
    Sounds like they lost in court more often, because they didn't show up and try to win.

    Also, the police don't initiate these things, there are complainants, and the article appears to say that the complainants for black subjects are more likely to be physically injured by real attacks.

    Nobody cares when males are vastly overrepresented in things like these. Men are 90% of all prison inmates. There's no organized group whining about "obvious sexist bias against men in the criminal justice system", because we all understand that men and women are not arbitrary groups, men do more violent things than women, so men are represented in the convict population in proportion to their offense rate, NOT in proportion to their 50% representation in the population at large.

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