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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    I am insured and always have been. Dealing with a thief could
    be as simple as dialing 911 and then my insurance company.

    The threat of or use of deadly force could be more of a life altering
    event for me than for the perp.

    I'm not willing to spend time in jail, or prison, or forfeit my life savings
    over something I can replace with minimal inconvenience.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    Perfect example of 'not enough detail'.
    His "garage" could be attached to the residence where
    he is sleeping.

    Or it could be a work space across town.
    What more details do you need? It's his garage, weather it's attached to his home or his work shop across town. They don't belong there and should be shot.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Nope.
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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    What do you think?
    For me, someone stealing a zero-turn mower (insert your own property) out of the backyard shed doesn't pass the smell test for deploying deadly force.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEAHS View Post
    What more details do you need? It's his garage, weather it's attached to his home or his work shop across town. They don't belong there and should be shot.
    One detail that I would like to know is if anyone in your family was in the garage at the time and was threatened. Do you have to confront them? Or can you can just see someone moving inside your shed and kill them from far away when you are in a safe spot and are not threatened.


    Goes back to my question a few posts up......"Should you be allowed to kill a bunch of teens that broke into your shed?"

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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Not really. I've got insurance for stuff. Maybe perhaps some lightening of terroristic intent/brandishing. Most of the rest like a bunch of people ganging up on you is likely already "justified". I'd be more worried about people walking out the door with a t.v. getting shot in the back or some other dumb thing. Obviously people shouldn't steal and there's other laws, police presence, and what that can be upped. But shooting someone for say looking in your mailbox or taking your Amazon package is a bit much.

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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    I think maybe I would settle with holding them at gunpoint and not being charged with "reckless endangerment" or some such bullshit
    I'd be on board for that. Maybe put them in a chair in front of you and lean an ax, 6' pipe, or similar item, against the chair and start smiling...

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    One detail that I would like to know is if anyone in your family was in the garage at the time and was threatened. Do you have to confront them? Or can you can just see someone moving inside your shed and kill them from far away when you are in a safe spot and are not threatened.


    Goes back to my question a few posts up......"Should you be allowed to kill a bunch of teens that broke into your shed?"
    Anyone asking this question should have US Law Shield...

    https://www.uslawshield.com/

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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    No*..
    Don’t like me ???? Tough, I don’t give a flying f@@k about ya.

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    Default Re: Should PA allow deadly force to stop thieves?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAKIII View Post
    Anyone asking this question should have US Law Shield...

    https://www.uslawshield.com/
    Once again the devil is in the details and it looks like this policy is for self defense. I have a feeling they would not cover you if you were defending your lawn mower.

    This really is a silly subject to comment on and I am surprised it was started by a lawyer. He should be telling us if he would even take a case like this (and more importantly if there was a chance in hell he would win).

    There was a case about a year ago when some rancher in Texas killed some illegal from 100 yards away that was trespassing on his land. IIRC Texas allows you to defend your property but he was arrested and charged with murder. This caused a similar pointless conversation here but then the news stopped reporting. Does anyone know if he got off?

    I believe what happened there would be the answer to this thread.

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