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    Default Firearm Flashing

    While driving in a little traffic one day I cut into the right lane and cut someone off. Nothing serious like getting too close to hitting his car. He flashed a gun at me and it got me a little concerned. He held it in his hand with the barrel pointing up but was clearly threatening to me. What could I do if he actually pointed it at me? I am still shocked that this happened too.

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    It's called brandishing, and it's illegal. It could be construed as a threat which you are allowed to respond with lethal force, but it's shaky ground, and probably not my go-to in that scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    It's called brandishing, and it's illegal.
    Are you sure about that? I've heard conflicting stories on it but don't know, myself.

    Pointing it at someone is another story and I think it's called reckless endangerment, maybe something else.
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    iAnal, however I always regarded brandishing as showing of a firearm which was previously concealed such as to send a warning that if you keep messing with them, they may shoot you. It's possibly conspiracy to commit assault with a deadly weapon. If I run at you with a baseball bat, would you not be able to shoot to protect yourself?

    Brandishing is defined by Merriam-Webster as to shake or wave (something such as a weapon) menacingly or exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner. In most states, *brandishing* is not a legally defined term.
    Actual law is fuzzy though, it seems. If I draw my weapon, I expect my target to shoot back, otherwise I'm probably not drawing. It's a needless elevation, you either draw to shoot, or you keep it concealed in my book.

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    Default Re: Firearm Flashing

    A nice summary, from a PA House rep:

    http://www.repsonney.com/Display/Sit...2010-26-13.pdf

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    Whenever I have been around someone who is road raging I get away from them. I slow down, make a turn, etc. If someone was doing that and showing me a gun I would be deploying chaff and breaking contact immediately.

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    Used to call that MENACING !

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    Quote Originally Posted by W2MC View Post
    A nice summary, from a PA House rep:

    http://www.repsonney.com/Display/Sit...2010-26-13.pdf
    That looks like a nice summary to me. Direct, concise and it appears accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    It's called brandishing, and it's illegal. It could be construed as a threat which you are allowed to respond with lethal force, but it's shaky ground, and probably not my go-to in that scenario.
    The following was brought to as a PSA by the offices of Jay Smith, Esquire.
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    Default Re: Firearm Flashing

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    iAnal, however I always regarded brandishing as showing of a firearm which was previously concealed such as to send a warning that if you keep messing with them, they may shoot you. It's possibly conspiracy to commit assault with a deadly weapon. If I run at you with a baseball bat, would you not be able to shoot to protect yourself?



    Actual law is fuzzy though, it seems. If I draw my weapon, I expect my target to shoot back, otherwise I'm probably not drawing. It's a needless elevation, you either draw to shoot, or you keep it concealed in my book.

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