I Just Renewed my LTCF

[OwnTheRide]

Which counties are breaking the law?

My understanding is most counties that share a border with another state are refusing to accept LTCF applications from non-residents unless they have a "reciprocity agreement" with the county of the state they border with. Counties that I have confirmed this for are:

- Susquehanna
- Bradford
- Potter

Here's a link to the Potter County website, where they advertise that they are violating the law right on the webpage:

The Potter County Sheriff's Department has a Reciprocity
Agreement with Allegany County, New York.
Due to our Reciprocity Agreement with them we will only
accept applications from Allegany County, New York residents

[ar15jules]

My understanding is most counties that share a border with another state are refusing to accept LTCF applications from non-residents unless they have a "reciprocity agreement" with the county of the state they border with. Counties that I have confirmed this for are:

- Susquehanna
- Bradford
- Potter

Here's a link to the Potter County website, where they advertise that they are violating the law right on the webpage:

If I read what Potter County says correctly, they have a RECOPROCITY agreement with Allegany County, NY, meaning they reciprocate. Can people in PA carry in Allegany County NY ????????

[free]

Renewed today. I was third in line.

They opened the doors at 800 am on the nose.

I had my new LTCF in my hand at 805 am.

Note: no references or employment info was required. They also didn't ask for ID, or request the return of my existing LTCF.

[STBear]

I recently renewed using the on line process. I left the references blank and it wouldn't let me proceed without putting in references.

[OwnTheRide]

If I read what Potter County says correctly, they have a RECOPROCITY agreement with Allegany County, NY, meaning they reciprocate. Can people in PA carry in Allegany County NY ????????

It's not that kind of reciprocity. My understanding - which may not be 100% correct - is that the "reciprocity" works as follows:

- The NY county may provide background check info to the PA county
- The PA county will accept applications from residents of the NY county (which they are required by law to do for all applicants)
- The NY county will accept applications from PA county residents, but will only approve if they meet the NY "non-resident requirements"

The "non-resident requirements" for NY basically amount to "is a resident" - meaning, owns property in the NY county, or owns a business in the NY county.

So, basically, it's all bullshit. Both PA and NY are already required by law to accept and process the applications from non-residents, and approve based on the laws of their respective states.The only "new" action is that the NY county may provide background check info.

[ar15jules]

It's not that kind of reciprocity. My understanding - which may not be 100% correct - is that the "reciprocity" works as follows:

- The NY county may provide background check info to the PA county
- The PA county will accept applications from residents of the NY county (which they are required by law to do for all applicants)
- The NY county will accept applications from PA county residents, but will only approve if they meet the NY "non-resident requirements"

The "non-resident requirements" for NY basically amount to "is a resident" - meaning, owns property in the NY county, or owns a business in the NY county.

So, basically, it's all bullshit. Both PA and NY are already required by law to accept and process the applications from non-residents, and approve based on the laws of their respective states.The only "new" action is that the NY county may provide background check info.

I see. Thanks.

[2DogsBarking]

Berks County - renewed on line.
Scheduled for pick up at the Sheriffs Office satellite - Reading Airport for 8:00 am today
Walked in - show DL - quick photo - permit in hand - 5 minutes
No references noted or required.......................

[STBear]

Just got my 4th letter to renew from the Delco sheriff's office. It was dated 3/18. I guess he really wants me to carry. I have had my new license for 2 weeks now.